Robbery [spoilers]

[RP33]

Rp I stand corrected I looked at not the epsn article they have on it but the round by round and yes one had it a draw and the others one a piece for each fighter. I know the look of a fighter doesn't really matter since one punch can often times rip a cut open in a boxers eyes, but that was just in reply to people saying that pavlik really didn't land anything significant throughout the fight and that taylor blocked all those punches, if that bulge was caused by insignificant punches than what would a hard punch done to taylors eye? I already mentioned the disparity in punchstats but nobody even seems to aknowledge those. Basically my problem is not with people thinking that taylor won the fight, I've myself thought fighters won a fight when they didn't on judges' scorecards, my problem lies with people calling this a robbery!! That's that

nah, i hear you dude.. as far as Pavlik not landing 'significant' punches, i agree in the sense of considering the way Taylor was fighting.. If Pavlik was landing jabs and short punches the whole fight (which he did), and his opponent was not returning with much, then i'd say an easy UD for Pavlik.. But Taylor was CLEARLY landing harder punches, and he connected with a number of them.. It was not like Taylor wasn't active throughout those rounds either.. There were several rounds where he fought for 3:00 of the round.. When you have a fighter landing 25 jabs, and the other fighter landing several punches that throw his opponent off balance, they sort of off-set each other, and it really depends on who is doing more damage and taking control of the fight.. Compared to the first fight, i didn't think Taylor was out of control nearly as much, and felt that he was very calm and collected and was firing at will.

[armin]

nah, i hear you dude.. as far as Pavlik not landing 'significant' punches, i agree in the sense of considering the way Taylor was fighting.. If Pavlik was landing jabs and short punches the whole fight (which he did), and his opponent was not returning with much, then i'd say an easy UD for Pavlik.. But Taylor was CLEARLY landing harder punches, and he connected with a number of them.. It was not like Taylor wasn't active throughout those rounds either.. There were several rounds where he fought for 3:00 of the round.. When you have a fighter landing 25 jabs, and the other fighter landing several punches that throw his opponent off balance, they sort of off-set each other, and it really depends on who is doing more damage and taking control of the fight.. Compared to the first fight, i didn't think Taylor was out of control nearly as much, and felt that he was very calm and collected and was firing at will.

Yes taylor did seem to be much more calm and collected this time around then he was in the first fight, though there were moments when I thought he was losing it, I swear I think I saw him jump of the ground at one point while throwing a wide looping hook. If kellys jabs were pity paty jabs and the disparity in the punches wasn't as big as it is I would agree, but kellys jabs in itself are damaging punches I think, and I didn't feel as though taylors punches were really that much more damaging to kelly. I guess greater minds have disagreed and like I said no probelm in thinking taylor won, but let's not call this a robbery when it really was just a close fight. Even if I did think taylor won I wouldn't feel to sorry for him because there were times when I thought he was on the good end of a bad decision.

[Deanrw]

Dibella
""I'm not arguing with the scorecards. It could have gone either way. I think the other guy [Pavlik] is a big, strong monster and Jermain was trying to box to a win, and I think he came damn close. I thought he pulled it out, but he has nothing to be ashamed of. This is not the kind of fight you argue about. It's the kind of fight you appreciate."

Ozell Nelson,

"I think tonight speaks for itself. I thought I did a pretty good job, but we came up short."

Even Taylor's own camp do not consider the fight to be a robbery.

[Diane]

Here is a great write-up by Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports. Both he and Dan Rafael of ESPN are reporting that Pavlik is going to the hospital to have both of his hands x-rayed. According to Iole, Pavlik was having stingers in both hands, and according to Rafael, Pavlik thinks he broke his right hand in the 7th round.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns