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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    Kelly's a big middleweight, so he should be able to move up to 168 effectively.

    I'd favor Calzaghe against him. If Kessler is able to mentally come back from his loss, then I'd give him a very good shot at beating Pavlik.

    I'd favor Pavlik against everyone else at 168 for now.

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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    i feel the same way pea, with his lanky frame he should be able to hold the extra few pounds. calzaghe would beat him, not 100% sure on kessler yet

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    I think Pavlik Kessler would be a great battle of chess. It would be a bit of a jabfest, but I think Kessler may have the flexibility to gain advantage over Pavlik during the fight. I would tip Kessler but I think it would be a test for both fighters... I think Calzaghe would just have too much for Pavlik.. He's got the full 12 rounds in the tank to match Pavliks pressure throughout, and to much ammunition, to much adaptability..
    As Kessler said, his style 'spoils your boxing'... He'd be getting around that 1,2 all night and frustrate Pavlik's fundamentals which are so strong for him...
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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    Pavlik would slot i nicely at 168, in fact I expect he'll fight at light heavyweight before his career is over. He's got a huge frame and still looks skinny at 166 lbs. It's possible imo he could end being a 3 weight world champ.

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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    Saturday's fight showed Pavlik could box effectively as well as bang, since he didn't just walk through Taylor. I also got the feeling that his power might not be as devastating at SM, he still landed a lot on Taylor but was never really that close to putting him away.

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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Saturday's fight showed Pavlik could box effectively as well as bang, since he didn't just walk through Taylor. I also got the feeling that his power might not be as devastating at SM, he still landed a lot on Taylor but was never really that close to putting him away.
    Oh he hits hard at supper middle. Taylor just avoided his right hand like it was the plague. He landed one on Taylor with about one minute left in the first round that would starch out most fighters. If he would have landed that punch later in the fight, Taylor would have been out of there as you could see his head snap very violently.

    Taylor just has a granite chin when he is not tired. he also has a lot of ring awareness and can prepare himself for bombs when he is fresh. Pavlik will be tough for anyone to beat. They can avoid his right hand, but then can simply get out worked by him. It will take someone with great foot and hand speed to beat him, and I can only think of one fighter at 168 with those attributes.
    Last edited by Deanrw; 02-19-2008 at 02:11 PM.

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    There isn't really anyone that can beat him at 168 except Calzaghe but i would even give Pavlik a chance in that one, because one of Calzaghe's biggest weaknesses is the straight right hand which he was caught over and over again by Woodhall, Reid. Now Kessler vs Pavlik would a very interesting fight, both men throw straight punches, and both men have very good technique. The edge in boxing skills goes to Kessler and the advantage in power going to Pavlik, there really isn't much too choose between them. I would love to see Pavlik shut Froch's big mouth, although Froch has some skills his defense is terrible and i think Pavlik would get rid of Froch in quick time. Andrade vs Pavlik like i said ages ago would be a very bad night for Andrade, Andrade blocks punches with his face and although he has a granite chin theres only so much a man can take, i think Bute is the darkhorse of the division i think he would give Pavlik some trouble, and as for Mundine he is a good fighter with good handspeed and i see Mundine giving Pavlik some trouble, but Mundine's defense is too leaky for my liking.

    Overall like someone said Pavlik still looked very skinny at 166, and he should move to 168 without sacrificing any of his attributes, i think he could even move up to 175 without sacrificing anything as well. But before Pavlik moves up i would like him to atleast beat Abraham.

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    Default Re: Pavlik at 168:how would he do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanrw View Post
    Oh he hits hard at supper middle. Taylor just avoided his right hand like it was the plague. He landed one on Taylor with about one minute left in the first round that would starch out most fighters. If he would have landed that punch later in the fight, Taylor would have been out of there as you could see his head snap very violently.

    Taylor just has a granite chin when he is not tired. he also has a lot of ring awareness and can prepare himself for bombs when he is fresh. Pavlik will be tough for anyone to beat. They can avoid his right hand, but then can simply get out worked by him. It will take someone with great foot and hand speed to beat him, and I can only think of one fighter at 168 with those attributes.
    I agree, not as devastating were my words, he'll still hit hard, but won't be able to depend on it IMO, which is why I was impressed with the way he essentially boxed his way to victory, and find a way around JT's tactics, I'm not convinced it was JT's stamina alone that gave Pavlik the last few rounds.

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