Castro resigns!!!!

[Trainer Monkey]

...well just call me crazy but a democratic Cuba would flourish, mainly because the embargo would be lifted and that would be bound to help them out.

Do you think Cuba is some sort of great place right now? No it's a shithole...the people trying to float to Miami on homemade rafts won't disagree.

Sure the Bay of Pigs was a catastrophe (thanks JFK) and they gave us quite a scare with the missle crisis but an embargo that has lasted since 1962....I think we hurt them more than they hurt us.

Go look up Batista
Like I said,not a huge Castro fan,but what he replaced was the mob,and theyve been salivaiting for this day for 40+ years
It wont get any better for the people,just guys in expensive suits who smoke cigars,which frankly even a good one smells like a gym lockeroom

[Kev]

Oh God, as soon as I saw the title I KNEW Lyle would have posted and that Trainer Monkey would be the first to respond.

Here begins another 25 page thread consisting soley of Lyle and Trainer Monkey back and forth encounter's

You two should have your own forum

[Trainer Monkey]

Oh God, as soon as I saw the title I KNEW Lyle would have posted and that Trainer Monkey would be the first to respond.

Here begins another 25 page thread consisting soley of Lyle and Trainer Monkey back and forth encounter's

You two should have your own forum

You looked

[Gandalf]

Castro did what he could with what he had. Same as any world leader would do really. Democracy....what a charade. It doesnt exist.

[OumaFan]

Can't say Cuban history's really my thing but as far as I know Raul was a socialist/communist before Fidel ever was. He and Che Guevara were. Don't know how much that matters to the whole "democratic Cuba" thing.

We'll see about a democratic Cuba, I suspect it would be more likely to be still communist in name but move towards more of the Chinese economic model.

Can't say I give a shit what happens to him, I'm on the left, unlike most Americans I don't have any problem calling myself a liberal, but I don't have any sympathy for people like Castro or Batista.

[El Kabong]

Go look up Batista
Like I said,not a huge Castro fan,but what he replaced was the mob,and theyve been salivaiting for this day for 40+ years
It wont get any better for the people,just guys in expensive suits who smoke cigars,which frankly even a good one smells like a gym lockeroom

Bautista was good for America....and we got to export our crime. It was win-win baby


Socialism simply doesn't work it punishes the people who want to go out and achieve and therefore it's just a pointless idiotic system of economics.

[Trainer Monkey]

Bautista was good for America....and we got to export our crime. It was win-win baby


Socialism simply doesn't work it punishes the people who want to go out and achieve and therefore it's just a pointless idiotic system of economics.

Which is why despite a 40+ year embargo by its closest and largest former traiding partner,20 years without any money from the Soviet Union,they have a better health care system then we do

[El Kabong]

HAHAHAHAHA....you believe that Go live there then!

Our healthcare system is messed up but it's better than Cuba's

[Trainer Monkey]

HAHAHAHAHA....you believe that Go live there then!

Our healthcare system is messed up but it's better than Cuba's

Go look it up on your own
Our healthcare system is a train wreck,its not bad,its abysmal
Its one of the worse in the industrialized world
So no,its not better then Cuba's,we could only hope to achieve Cuba's
And the "go live there" line is the last line of defense of a coward who cant face the truth
Its alot easier to spew that crud then to try and fix here

[El Kabong]

Very few things need to be done to fix the system here the problem is no one is making the changes.

If you want socialized healthcare then go right ahead and vote for Obama or Hillary....you have your opportunity right now.



And why does every motherfucking post have to be someone berating ME about healthcare....you guys do realize that lots of people not paying their bills at the emergency room or hospital adds to the cost of both health insurance AND the cost of the stay at the ER or hospital It's not just rich people fucking the system up

[Kirkland Laing]

Very few things need to be done to fix the system here the problem is no one is making the changes.

If you want socialized healthcare then go right ahead and vote for Obama or Hillary....you have your opportunity right now.



And why does every motherfucking post have to be someone berating ME about healthcare....you guys do realize that lots of people not paying their bills at the emergency room or hospital adds to the cost of both health insurance AND the cost of the stay at the ER or hospital It's not just rich people fucking the system up

The only parts of the US healthcare system that work efficiently are the socialised parts. The vast majority of the US system -- the corporate socialist part -- costs many times more than other industrialised countries and is rubbish.

[Kirkland Laing]

Go look up Batista
Like I said,not a huge Castro fan,but what he replaced was the mob,and theyve been salivaiting for this day for 40+ years
It wont get any better for the people,just guys in expensive suits who smoke cigars,which frankly even a good one smells like a gym lockeroom

Yes. Cuba will turn into the new Haiti, a big offshore sweatshop for Cuban-American businesses. There'll be superficial signs of progress but twenty years after capitalism gets busy again the majority of Cubans will still be worse off than they are now.

Cuba would have been in pretty good shape had it not been under US embargo for the past few decades.

[El Kabong]

Cuba will be far better off than Haiti.

I tell you what the big thing Cuba could do for us (when they become a democracy of course) ethanol from corn is all well and good but SUGAR is where it's at! Brazil has supposedly had some good success with ethanol derived from sugar and Cuba could export to the US and we could help them out with what our embargo has done to them over 4 decades.


And American tourism in general will bring them MILLIONS...they do have to clean up a bit though some American businesses can create some monster hotels down there and casinos.

Havana would become a mix of Miami and Las Vegas....and think of all the great boxers that will be able to fight in the pros when they stop being a stupid socialist state!!!

[Kirkland Laing]

Cuba will be far better off than Haiti.

I tell you what the big thing Cuba could do for us (when they become a democracy of course) ethanol from corn is all well and good but SUGAR is where it's at! Brazil has supposedly had some good success with ethanol derived from sugar and Cuba could export to the US and we could help them out with what our embargo has done to them over 4 decades.


And American tourism in general will bring them MILLIONS...they do have to clean up a bit though some American businesses can create some monster hotels down there and casinos.

Havana would become a mix of Miami and Las Vegas....and think of all the great boxers that will be able to fight in the pros when they stop being a stupid socialist state!!!

Cuba will become Haiti with tourism and a couple of skyscrapers in Havana. Ethanol as fuel is just a US socialist subsidy paid to Big Agriculture. It's not even green.