The beginning of a new age in Heavyweight Boxing

[The Rookie Fan]

Beating Sulton wont make Wlad a lineal champ. I think Sulton is Rank #4. For true recognition we need #1Wlad vs #2 Peter.

Although we are going in the right direction.

The first Unification fight in a division where the lineal title has been vacated is automatically a lineal title fight.

[Mikkel_K]

The first Unification fight in a division where the lineal title has been vacated is automatically a lineal title fight.

This means that the winner of Chagaev-Ibragimov would have been lineal Heavyweight champion of the world, right? Jesus...

Also, you could argue that Klitschko has already unified the IBF and IBO titles. Sure, the IBO isn't anything special, but isnt that true about the WBO as well?

[Jody Lane]

The first Unification fight in a division where the lineal title has been vacated is automatically a lineal title fight.

Actually the term is linear championship. Basically one can trace the title either back to the days before the alphabet bandits fucked everything up by keeping the best from fighting the best or all the major champs fight each other and the guy who comes out on top is considered the "real" champ.

Wlad fighting the least credible of the other champs will not make him a linear champion, just a semi-unified champ. He'll still need to fight the WBC and WBA champs to get to the point of being the true champion. As far as him Peter again, neither were title holders when they fought the first time so I am game to see who has improved (Peter did knock down Wlad a few times) since then.

[El Kabong]

RookieFan, the division is not shit it's just the good fighters and title holders aren't fighting each other and no one is taking any risks! The last risk any big time heavyweight took was the Klitschko-Peter fight.

There are outside elements keeping these titles from being unified and EVERYONE knows it.


Lucifer, Wlad is not fighting the "least credible champ" that would be Oleg Maskaev!

Sultan beat Briggs to win the title and defended against Holyfield and that beats what Maskaev did (Oleg beat Rahman to win the vacant title and defended against Peter Okhello). Sultan is also UNDEFEATED sure he has had his issues in the past but being undefeated is no easy task.


Why must you guys seek out the bad in the division? Why can't you look for the good? There are more evenly matched fights in this division and there are more guys who can contend for the titles in this division when compared to any other but yet it's "a crap division" in your opinion.

Even if Wlad unified all the titles people would still hate on him and this division, it happens all the time to all boxers who are successful

[The Rookie Fan]

RookieFan, the division is not shit it's just the good fighters and title holders aren't fighting each other and no one is taking any risks! The last risk any big time heavyweight took was the Klitschko-Peter fight.

There are outside elements keeping these titles from being unified and EVERYONE knows it.


Lucifer, Wlad is not fighting the "least credible champ" that would be Oleg Maskaev!

Sultan beat Briggs to win the title and defended against Holyfield and that beats what Maskaev did (Oleg beat Rahman to win the vacant title and defended against Peter Okhello). Sultan is also UNDEFEATED sure he has had his issues in the past but being undefeated is no easy task.


Why must you guys seek out the bad in the division? Why can't you look for the good? There are more evenly matched fights in this division and there are more guys who can contend for the titles in this division when compared to any other but yet it's "a crap division" in your opinion.

Even if Wlad unified all the titles people would still hate on him and this division, it happens all the time to all boxers who are successful

Well I don't think I ever used the words "shit" or "crap" in my post. All I said is the division sucks. Mainly for the reasons you have just stated here. I also said it is moving in the right direction to make it a better division than it currently is.

[Jody Lane]

RookieFan, the division is not shit it's just the good fighters and title holders aren't fighting each other and no one is taking any risks! The last risk any big time heavyweight took was the Klitschko-Peter fight.

There are outside elements keeping these titles from being unified and EVERYONE knows it.


Lucifer, Wlad is not fighting the "least credible champ" that would be Oleg Maskaev!

Sultan beat Briggs to win the title and defended against Holyfield and that beats what Maskaev did (Oleg beat Rahman to win the vacant title and defended against Peter Okhello). Sultan is also UNDEFEATED sure he has had his issues in the past but being undefeated is no easy task.


Why must you guys seek out the bad in the division? Why can't you look for the good? There are more evenly matched fights in this division and there are more guys who can contend for the titles in this division when compared to any other but yet it's "a crap division" in your opinion.

Even if Wlad unified all the titles people would still hate on him and this division, it happens all the time to all boxers who are successful

Actually Lyle I don't hate Wlad. But I was saying that basically using the logic started in this thread that Wlad (the winner now) is the linear champ based on his win over another champ, then the winner of the Peter-Makaev fight could fight the Wba champ and the winner of that fight could also claim to be the linear champ.