Just rewatched Pacquaio-JMM 1

[DaxxKahn]

First of all I would like to say that people who feel JMM "figured" Pacquaio out are totally wrong. First Pacquaio knocks Marquez down three times in a brutal first round. Then Marquez was recovering in the second round. the next three or four rounds Marquez adjusts and Pacquaio can't land anything, nor can he get off because Marquez realizes Pacquaio is just trying to land huge punches. Then in the 7th or 8th Pacquaio starts boxing more and the fight is pretty even but Pacquaio has a slight edge until the end. Personally I have pacquaio winning by a round, but it could easily be a draw because one round he landed thebetter shots but JMM landed more punches.

That being the said the one thing that caused Pacqaio the most problems besides the fact JMM is a great boxer is that Marquez really used slick movement to avoid Pac's assault... It was some of the best footwork I've seen, and reminded me of Hopkins against Trinidad or Tarver, JMM was always on his balance point and he was always quick to retaliate, but now he is much more flat footed which means he will be far easier for Pac to hit, and he has slowed down much more than Pacquaio.

How many times in one post will you contradict yourself?....You start out with "People who think JMM figured PAC out are all wrong"..

Then go on to say Jmm adjusted to him in the next 3 or 4 rounds and PAC could not land anything...nor get off punches because JMM kknows he is just trying to land one big shot....

That is called FIGURED OUT!!! He realized Pacquaios strategy then he found a way to nullify it

[ICB]

This was my scorecard last time i watched the fight.

1 Pacquiao 10-6
2 Pacquiao 10-9
3 Marquez 10-9
4 Marquez 10-9
5 Marquez 10-9
6 Marquez 10-9
7 Pacquiao 10-9
8 Marquez 10-9
9 Marquez 10-9
10 Pacquiao 10-9
11 Marquez 10-9
12 Marquez 10-9

113-112 Marquez

[Pugilistic]

i felt marquez won

[Taeth]

This was my scorecard last time i watched the fight.

1 Pacquiao 10-6
2 Pacquiao 10-9
3 Marquez 10-9
4 Marquez 10-9
5 Marquez 10-9
6 Marquez 10-9
7 Pacquiao 10-9
8 Marquez 10-9
9 Marquez 10-9
10 Pacquiao 10-9
11 Marquez 10-9
12 Marquez 10-9

113-112 Marquez

Thats bs Marquez didn't even win close to that many of the late rounds. No offense, but there is no way Marquez won both 11 and 12, one he could have, but not both, and same with 8... I had the last 5 rounds go 3-2 for Pacquaio, he landed the way better punches and maybe was outlanded by 1 or 2 punches in rounds where he landed 5 or 6 punches harder than anything Marquez landed.

[ICB]

Thats bs Marquez didn't even win close to that many of the late rounds. No offense, but there is no way Marquez won both 11 and 12, one he could have, but not both, and same with 8... I had the last 5 rounds go 3-2 for Pacquaio, he landed the way better punches and maybe was outlanded by 1 or 2 punches in rounds where he landed 5 or 6 punches harder than anything Marquez landed.

Round 8 was close and could of gone either way, and if i remember right Marquez clearly won the 11th, the 12th was quite close but i felt Marquez outlanded Pacquiao in that round and slightly got the better of the exchanges. You can't say there is *No way* Marquez won those rounds, because the 12th and 8th were close and no one clearly won those rounds they were highly competitive rounds.

[Taeth]

I agree to disagree... I don't think Marquez won both the last two rounds. I remember him clearly winning one of them, but not both, and also the 8th IMO was close, but Pacquaio landed harder shots in the 8th where both them really couldn't do anything. In the 12th however Pacquaio landed more, and better punches.

[Taeth]

How many times in one post will you contradict yourself?....You start out with "People who think JMM figured PAC out are all wrong"..

Then go on to say Jmm adjusted to him in the next 3 or 4 rounds and PAC could not land anything...nor get off punches because JMM kknows he is just trying to land one big shot....

That is called FIGURED OUT!!! He realized Pacquaios strategy then he found a way to nullify it

Um read the rest of it... Marquez had him figured out for 3 or 4 rounds ,but after that Pacquaio changed his style and Marquez lost his advantage.

[pacfan]

The reason why pac started to land some shots at last couple of rounds was that marquez started to slow down a bit and pac started to mount his last hurrah offense.

[SweetPea]

I scored the first fight 7-5 for Marquez in rounds, but the 3 knockdowns in Round 1 made it a 113-112 points win for Pacquiao.

I think the rematch is a 50/50 fight odds-wise, but my gut tells me Marquez will win by close decision.

[:::PSL:::]

I just realized. Posters on this thread that says Pac would lose to JMM are pretty much the same people who picked MAB over Pac.

Tsk! tsk! HATE is a sad thing.

[SweetPea]

I just realized. Posters on this thread that says Pac would lose to JMM are pretty much the same people who picked MAB over Pac.

Tsk! tsk! HATE is a sad thing.

I picked Pacquiao to beat Barrera by knockout.

There's a big difference between Pac-Barrera II and Pac-Marquez II. Pac destroyed Barrera in the first fight, while the first Marquez fight was a great back-and-forth fight.

There are plenty of reasons to pick Marquez to win that have nothing to do with being a "Pacquiao hater."

[:::PSL:::]

I picked Pacquiao to beat Barrera by knockout.

There's a big difference between Pac-Barrera II and Pac-Marquez II. Pac destroyed Barrera in the first fight, while the first Marquez fight was a great back-and-forth fight.

There are plenty of reasons to pick Marquez to win that have nothing to do with being a "Pacquiao hater."

Yea, I hope "addicted_to_boxing" have the same point of view.