Casual boxing fans and even some hardcore boxing fans are a JOKE.

[Fenster]

I believe it's to do with the KO factor. The bigger the guys the more likely a KO..

Although guys like Marquez-Vazquez blow that theory out the water

[superheavyrhun]

I believe it's to do with the KO factor. The bigger the guys the more likely a KO..

Although guys like Marquez-Vazquez blow that theory out the water

I reckon we're looking at this more likely to have a KO than Wlad v Sultan last week. Anyone going to do an RBR on this, cause I don't think it's being shown in the UK.

[Magoo]

Heavier weights are definately getting harder to watch. I don't remember the last heavy weight contest I really enjoyed. Would anyone favour a weight limit on the heavy weight division being set with fighters above that fighting at a "Super Duper Heavy Weight" level?

Maybe then the dross of overweight fighters could fight at "Super Duper " level and let the more athletic, skilled big guys fight at Heavyweight.

Or am I just talking crap?

[Bomp]

Just checked the Setanta listings and it isn't on, bullshit. It would cost next to fuck all to screen it since the purses are already decided.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Heavier weights are definately getting harder to watch. I don't remember the last heavy weight contest I really enjoyed. Would anyone favour a weight limit on the heavy weight division being set with fighters above that fighting at a "Super Duper Heavy Weight" level?

Maybe then the dross of overweight fighters could fight at "Super Duper " level and let the more athletic, skilled big guys fight at Heavyweight.

Or am I just talking crap?

I'vebeen saying this for a while... Let the freaks fight each other and Guys like Ruslan and Sultan can have a propper fight.

[Magoo]

Cheers for the welcome yesterday Pride, glad you agree with the freakshow division.

[luvfightgame]

I'vebeen saying this for a while... Let the freaks fight each other and Guys like Ruslan and Sultan can have a propper fight.

I have been saying that also. Valuev out weighs some of his opponents by nearly 100lbs!?! It's like Juan Diaz fighting Lennox Lewis. Hatton has struggled by moving up 7lbs, but we have 30-100 lb differences? There should definitely be a superheavy division.

[Bomp]

I have been saying that also. Valuev out weighs some of his opponents by nearly 100lbs!?! It's like Juan Diaz fighting Lennox Lewis. Hatton has struggled by moving up 7lbs, but we have 30-100 lb differences? There should definitely be a superheavy division.

I'd agree with you if I thought it was impossible for the smaller heavy's to be competitive against the biggest, I just think the case at the moment is that the smaller fella's just aren't as good as previous smaller guys.

[Mar]

For boxing fans this fight is as big as any, the casual fan doesn't have any real reason to watch looking at it from thier point of view. They assume these are just quick little guys who can't hit very hard (very untrue) they aren't starting race wars or throwing million dollar bills in the air everywhere they go, niether are undeafeated, both live pretty normal lives. It's what most casual boxing fans always miss out on...a plain ole good damn fight, but that alone isn't enough for people these days part of the reason mma is what it is...most casual fans are bloodthirsty and could care less about the skill of the sweet science. I like most here have been looking forward to this weekend for awhile now...

[El Kabong]

I'vebeen saying this for a while... Let the freaks fight each other and Guys like Ruslan and Sultan can have a propper fight.

Pride you know you are well liked by myself and the other forum members which is why it hurts me to tell you......

YOU'RE A FREAKING MORON!

A heavyweight is a heavyweight is a heavyweight...anyone over 205 POST TRAINING is big enough to hurt anyone else bigger than them. RJJ-Ruiz should have taught you that....or Louis-Carnera or Dempsey-Willard....the list goes on

The last great heavyweight fight to watch...hell there are ALWAYS great heavyweight fights to watch BUT sometimes they aren't shown on TV. The last great televised one was in my opinion Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis two fucking huge fighters going toe to toe and not giving a damn about defense.

Remember

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixiIyOEwYd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZM_nMTVs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbtsNVas-M8

I defy anyone to tell me that wasn't an AWESOME heavyweight fight....problems are though, that #1 It was ended due to a cut and #2 Vitali and Lennox never had a rematch

[El Gamo]

Pride you know you are well liked by myself and the other forum members which is why it hurts me to tell you......

YOU'RE A FREAKING MORON!

A heavyweight is a heavyweight is a heavyweight...anyone over 205 POST TRAINING is big enough to hurt anyone else bigger than them. RJJ-Ruiz should have taught you that....or Louis-Carnera or Dempsey-Willard....the list goes on

The last great heavyweight fight to watch...hell there are ALWAYS great heavyweight fights to watch BUT sometimes they aren't shown on TV. The last great televised one was in my opinion Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis two fucking huge fighters going toe to toe and not giving a damn about defense.

Remember

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixiIyOEwYd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZM_nMTVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbtsNVas-M8
I defy anyone to tell me that wasn't an AWESOME heavyweight fight....problems are though, that #1 It was ended due to a cut and #2 Vitali and Lennox never had a rematch

Stop hijacking my thread.

For boxing fans this fight is as big as any, the casual fan doesn't have any real reason to watch looking at it from thier point of view. They assume these are just quick little guys who can't hit very hard (very untrue) they aren't starting race wars or throwing million dollar bills in the air everywhere they go, niether are undeafeated, both live pretty normal lives. It's what most casual boxing fans always miss out on...a plain ole good damn fight, but that alone isn't enough for people these days part of the reason mma is what it is...most casual fans are bloodthirsty and could care less about the skill of the sweet science. I like most here have been looking forward to this weekend for awhile now...-Mar

CC on me my friend,very true. I just don't understand why casual fans think like that. And rmemeber,this fight is not just 2 club style brawlers going at it like Ward and Gatti,these 2 are superbly skilled,the title is on the line and both are P4P or close.

[El Kabong]

What are you talking about "hijacking your thread"?

I am trying to make a point that heavyweights can still fight...they CAN, it doesn't mean they WILL. It's like going on a safari, sometimes you get to see a ton of different animals and sometimes you just drive around the Sahara wasting gas....it's just the luck of the draw and the style matchup. Sure people care about the little guys fighting, infact they usually out perform the heavyweights....and the lighter weights have more styles, better training (usually), more punches, more power punches, and they are more prone to mixing it up....how many fight of the year candidates have been from 175 and up the past 10 years


As for the MMA fans or ignorant guys who just catch a fight here and there...there is no use in trying to explain everything to them all at once, there is too much to appreciate and people who have never actually fought will never understand how hard some of the stuff these fighters do is. And for some people it's just not worth trying to get them to see what true fans of boxing see....they want the specticle of the sport, the trash talking, show boating, and blood.....so they probably need to go turn the tv to WWE because they don't care and will never care about the purity of the sport, "the sweet science" and therefore they don't understand the sport in general and anything they say about it is usually utter bullcrap.