Things to thank God for today!!!

[donnydarkoIRL]

I agree.. I didn't say we shouldn't show gratitude, just asked "WHO" we'd be thanking..
I ask because I think religion has had such a negative effect in our world that I find it hard to even entertain myself to believe in a 'god'.. The closest i'd come is buddhism, but that is more of a way of life then worshiping of a god, which i find alright..
I just think it's funny to plays devil's advocate and just pretend there is no God.. We're all greatful for what we have, our health, our wealth etc, but without a God, who do we thank.. it would sound funny for a grown person to be thanking Santa Claus, someone who we all know is a mythological figure.. So when i picture God that way, then you can see the humor? Science?
I suppose we'd just leave it at, 'i'm lucky' and 'i'm greatful'.. that works for me.
ps: i don't mean to offend anyone or their religion, i'm just saying be open minded.. i'm not trying to convert anyone to atheism, as i said i could careless about the idea of religion, but I do respect others beliefs.

Hey man I completely understand.
I'm not overly religious myself, in fact one could say that I've really neglected that side of my life in recent times, but I do actually believe and I am grateful for what I have. For me it's only natural to give thanks now that things are going well.

As regards the religious debate, I really don't feel I have the right to advocate or condemn any idea or belief. Religion is of varying importance throughout the world and I feel that they all have similar aspects so I couldn't possibly offer anything more solid than an opinion on these orders.

But the fact is; In my own life, I do genuinely feel that I've been taken care of and I've been incredibly selfish, ungrateful and bad in the past.

[RP33]

Hey man I completely understand.
I'm not overly religious myself, in fact one could say that I've really neglected that side of my life in recent times, but I do actually believe and I am grateful for what I have. For me it's only natural to give thanks now that things are going well.

As regards the religious debate, I really don't feel I have the right to advocate or condemn any idea or belief. Religion is of varying importance throughout the world and I feel that they all have similar aspects so I couldn't possibly offer anything more solid than an opinion on these orders.

But the fact is; In my own life, I do genuinely feel that I've been taken care of and I've been incredibly selfish, ungrateful and bad in the past.

Yep, i hear ya.. i mean, i was raised Catholic, i went to Catholic/Private school from kindergarten through my last year of high school.. so it wasn't til college that i was part of a non-catholic, non-private education.. It was just my upbringing.. church every sunday with my parents, church on all of the holy holidays.. i just felt that as i got older i re-evaluated my beliefs, and have come to where i am now..

I just find it ignorant when people imply that you're evil if 'YOURE NOT THANKING GOD?!?!".. this is not anyone on this board of course, i'm just saying in every day life.. It's almost as if you're evil if you don't have a religion.. and it is THAT about religion that i hate.. that is what starts religious wars (eg: the turmoil the middle east..) "If you do'nt believe in what i believe in, then you're wrong" That is the problem with society today.. I'm not evil nor do i wish anything negative upon anyone.. i'm more or less a pacifist (with the exception of boxing ).. but i don't think god.. does that mean that i'm not as grateful to be alive 22 years as you are?(not you personally obviously) I doubt it.

[brucelee]

Yep, i hear ya.. i mean, i was raised Catholic, i went to Catholic/Private school from kindergarten through my last year of high school.. so it wasn't til college that i was part of a non-catholic, non-private education.. It was just my upbringing.. church every sunday with my parents, church on all of the holy holidays.. i just felt that as i got older i re-evaluated my beliefs, and have come to where i am now..

I just find it ignorant when people imply that you're evil if 'YOURE NOT THANKING GOD?!?!".. this is not anyone on this board of course, i'm just saying in every day life.. It's almost as if you're evil if you don't have a religion.. and it is THAT about religion that i hate.. that is what starts religious wars (eg: the turmoil the middle east..) "If you do'nt believe in what i believe in, then you're wrong" That is the problem with society today.. I'm not evil nor do i wish anything negative upon anyone.. i'm more or less a pacifist (with the exception of boxing ).. but i don't think god.. does that mean that i'm not as grateful to be alive 22 years as you are?(not you personally obviously) I doubt it.

I was also raised as a Catholic,been into seminary and have thought of becoming a priest someday. Then I realized that there are many things/doctrines in the Roman Catholic that are not even biblical. So I decided to read philosophy books. I became an atheist thereon. I've decided to read the Bible, then I became a Christian.


So when somebody tells me that he is an atheist, I can empathize and understand him.

[RP33]

I was also raised as a Catholic,been into seminary and have thought of becoming a priest someday. Then I realized that there are many things/doctrines in the Roman Catholic that are not even biblical. So I decided to read philosophy books. I became an atheist thereon. I've decided to read the Bible, then I became a Christian.


So when somebody tells me that he is an atheist, I can empathize and understand him.

quite a journey eh?

let's just hope you don't stumble across the Satanic Bible and the Anarchist's Cookbook in the same day as we'll see you in prison for arson charges

[brucelee]

quite a journey eh?

let's just hope you don't stumble across the Satanic Bible and the Anarchist's Cookbook in the same day as we'll see you in prison for arson charges

I forgot to mention that I have also been into witchcraft and satanic things and thankfully no one had charged me for arson yet.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yep, i hear ya.. i mean, i was raised Catholic, i went to Catholic/Private school from kindergarten through my last year of high school.. so it wasn't til college that i was part of a non-catholic, non-private education.. It was just my upbringing.. church every sunday with my parents, church on all of the holy holidays.. i just felt that as i got older i re-evaluated my beliefs, and have come to where i am now..

I just find it ignorant when people imply that you're evil if 'YOURE NOT THANKING GOD?!?!".. this is not anyone on this board of course, i'm just saying in every day life.. It's almost as if you're evil if you don't have a religion.. and it is THAT about religion that i hate.. that is what starts religious wars (eg: the turmoil the middle east..) "If you do'nt believe in what i believe in, then you're wrong" That is the problem with society today.. I'm not evil nor do i wish anything negative upon anyone.. i'm more or less a pacifist (with the exception of boxing ).. but i don't think god.. does that mean that i'm not as grateful to be alive 22 years as you are?(not you personally obviously) I doubt it.

Yeah Point of view totally understood and respected man.
The fact that we hold different beliefs doesn't alter my opinion of you at all....Some peole let it cloud their opinions and I think thats silly, you're still the exact same person that you were five minutes ago in my eyes, the only difference is now I know a little more about you....You look at things logically, thats hardly a sin!

Thanking God (imaginary) for keeping you safe on the road is a wrongun, surely? Unless you believe you're SPECIAL of course.
Roughly over 1 million people die in car accidents every year.
On new years day my cousins 15 year old daughter was killed in a car crash.. guess she wasn't "special" enough for God (imaginary) to give a shit?

Fenster, I'm sorry man, but I think you're well out of order here.

To hold your own beliefs is perfectly acceptable, to feel that others beliefs are false is actually OK, but to disrespect anothers opinion and belief is both disrespectful and unfair.

The fact is, that behind the personalities that are presented on the computer screen in front of you, lie the lives of numerous other people, with their own lives, opinions and feelings.

I sympathise with your cousin's passing, I understand your situation all too well, but the people you insult by passing comment are no less "special" than your cousin so please respect them the way they in turn respect you and your loss.

[RP33]

Yeah Point of view totally understood and respected man.
The fact that we hold different beliefs doesn't alter my opinion of you at all....Some peole let it cloud their opinions and I think thats silly, you're still the exact same person that you were five minutes ago in my eyes, the only difference is now I know a little more about you....You look at things logically, thats hardly a sin!

Fenster, I'm sorry man, but I think you're well out of order here.

To hold your own beliefs is perfectly acceptable, to feel that others beliefs are false is actually OK, but to disrespect anothers opinion and belief is both disrespectful and unfair.

The fact is, that behind the personalities that are presented on the computer screen in front of you, lie the lives of numerous other people, with their own lives, opinions and feelings.

I sympathise with your cousin's passing, I understand your situation all too well, but the people you insult by passing comment are no less "special" than your cousin so please respect them the way they in turn respect you and your loss.

well put donny..


to be honest i haven't really talked to people about religion in quite some time as it's obviously not a normal topic of discussion throughout my daily life.. but to hear someone, who is catholic/religious, say that they respect and understand someone else's belief is pretty damn big.. i mean from what i've seen in and out of church while i was catholic was a whole lot of ignorance and close mindedness.. again, not saying that this is how everyone acts, but just that it comes with the territory of defending your religion and beliefs.. so to hear/see someone say that they understand others beliefs is a sign of hope.. If everyone acted that way the world would be QUITE different.. so props to you guys, seriously.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Well, Ok story time....
Although I'm Roman Catholic I don't really go by the church's expectations. I pray with the same prayers, I confess occasionally, I attend the church and I receive communion, but I'm hardly an exemplary Roman Catholic.

But in the past number of years, I've lost people I've been down, I've seen hard times and I've been hurt.
Friends have died, relatives have died, a hell of a lot of stuff has happened.

one night, I had just finished training and my phone was missing I really couldn't find it. I found my phone to find three missed calls from a friend who had been calling to meet me after training, he had been intending to give me a lift home and when I failed to answer he waited a while and when I din't ring he set off home. The next morning I woke to hear that he had crashed on the way home, the car had bee absolutley mutilated and the passenger seat was literally cut in two on impact, the car looked a disposed piece of tin foil. That would have been me If I could have found my phone and took the lift I had been hoping for.

Some may look at it as luck or a coincidence, but honestly I do thank god that I'm still alive.

[brucelee]

Well, Ok story time....
Although I'm Roman Catholic I don't really go by the church's expectations. I pray with the same prayers, I confess occasionally, I attend the church and I receive communion, but I'm hardly an exemplary Roman Catholic.

But in the past number of years, I've lost people I've been down, I've seen hard times and I've been hurt.
Friends have died, relatives have died, a hell of a lot of stuff has happened.

one night, I had just finished training and my phone was missing I really couldn't find it. I found my phone to find three missed calls from a friend who had been calling to meet me after training, he had been intending to give me a lift home and when I failed to answer he waited a while and when I din't ring he set off home. The next morning I woke to hear that he had crashed on the way home, the car had bee absolutley mutilated and the passenger seat was literally cut in two on impact, the car looked a disposed piece of tin foil. That would have been me If I could have found my phone and took the lift I had been hoping for.

Some may look at it as luck or a coincidence, but honestly I do thank god that I'm still alive.

nice story donny.

[RP33]

Well, Ok story time....
Although I'm Roman Catholic I don't really go by the church's expectations. I pray with the same prayers, I confess occasionally, I attend the church and I receive communion, but I'm hardly an exemplary Roman Catholic.

But in the past number of years, I've lost people I've been down, I've seen hard times and I've been hurt.
Friends have died, relatives have died, a hell of a lot of stuff has happened.

one night, I had just finished training and my phone was missing I really couldn't find it. I found my phone to find three missed calls from a friend who had been calling to meet me after training, he had been intending to give me a lift home and when I failed to answer he waited a while and when I din't ring he set off home. The next morning I woke to hear that he had crashed on the way home, the car had bee absolutley mutilated and the passenger seat was literally cut in two on impact, the car looked a disposed piece of tin foil. That would have been me If I could have found my phone and took the lift I had been hoping for.

Some may look at it as luck or a coincidence, but honestly I do thank god that I'm still alive.

good story.. a lot of times we don't realize it but our day is filled with stuff like this.. If you're driving and you're at a red light, and then it turns green but you're not paying attention, so you're sitting there for 5 full seconds and then the person behind you beeps at you.. so now your day is 5 full seconds behind.. who knows how different it would be..

[Fenster]

Well, Ok story time....
Although I'm Roman Catholic I don't really go by the church's expectations. I pray with the same prayers, I confess occasionally, I attend the church and I receive communion, but I'm hardly an exemplary Roman Catholic.

But in the past number of years, I've lost people I've been down, I've seen hard times and I've been hurt.
Friends have died, relatives have died, a hell of a lot of stuff has happened.

one night, I had just finished training and my phone was missing I really couldn't find it. I found my phone to find three missed calls from a friend who had been calling to meet me after training, he had been intending to give me a lift home and when I failed to answer he waited a while and when I din't ring he set off home. The next morning I woke to hear that he had crashed on the way home, the car had bee absolutley mutilated and the passenger seat was literally cut in two on impact, the car looked a disposed piece of tin foil. That would have been me If I could have found my phone and took the lift I had been hoping for.

Some may look at it as luck or a coincidence, but honestly I do thank god that I'm still alive.

Donny, I was gonna leave this but you told the story.. I hope I don't come across as too much of a crass cunt.

Do you believe God (imaginary) hid your phone to save you.. or did he wanna kill your friend?

If your man wasn't in the exact same place at the exact same time the exact same crash wouldn't have happened, right?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Donny, I was gonna leave this but you told the story.. I hope I don't come across as too much of a crass cunt.

Do you believe God (imaginary) hid your phone to save you.. or did he wanna kill your friend?

If your man wasn't in the exact same place at the exact same time the exact same crash wouldn't have happened, right?

Man he waited for me outside training same as he would on a regular enough basis, but he thought I wasn't there because I stayed in looking for it.

I would easily have put it down to expierience, but it's not the first time something similar has happened.

In the past two years, the class I started with in secondary scholl has decreased by ten.