p4p Hardest puncher at the moment?

**Pantera** · 03-05-2008 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Ponce and Miranda are probably top.

Guys like Manny,Margarito,Cotto,Paavlike are NOT guys that are going to stop you with 1 punch. In contrast, a Pantera right hand could be good night! The aforementioned guys are volume guys/heavy handed guys.

Good post.
Those guys are strong and will knock your ass out, but overtime. Not so much a one punch power shot.

**boozeboxer** · 03-05-2008 03:53 AM

wlad, ponce de leon, valero. I guess I don't have Peter on there. Although Toney is one of the greatest chins of all time, he took Peter shots flush. To no real effect. Note that Toney is a blown up middleweight.

**pacfan** · 05-30-2008 09:36 PM

Hardly anyone mentioned J M Marquez. IMO, he's overrated in some areas but strangely grossly underrated in his punching power. He's got power to knock almost anyone down or out; it's just he's not aggressive enough sometimes to be able to do that.

**:::PSL:::** · 05-31-2008 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by pacfan

Hardly anyone mentioned J M Marquez. IMO, he's overrated in some areas but strangely grossly underrated in his punching power. He's got power to knock almost anyone down or out; it's just he's not aggressive enough sometimes to be able to do that.

He couldn't put away the one-eye vunerable Juarez. He was aggressive when he fought Barrera and Juarez. He was well conditioned when he fought Pac.

What I'm saying is he left his punching power at jr featherweight. He has zero KO or KD at SF.

**pacfan** · 05-31-2008 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Originally Posted by pacfan

Hardly anyone mentioned J M Marquez. IMO, he's overrated in some areas but strangely grossly underrated in his punching power. He's got power to knock almost anyone down or out; it's just he's not aggressive enough sometimes to be able to do that.

He couldn't put away the one-eye vunerable Juarez. He was aggressive when he fought Barrera and Juarez. He was well conditioned when he fought Pac.

What I'm saying is he left his punching power at jr featherweight. He has zero KO or KD at SF.

If you say so....... hmmm .......then, I'll go with you.

**:::PSL:::** · 05-31-2008 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by pacfan

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Originally Posted by pacfan

Hardly anyone mentioned J M Marquez. IMO, he's overrated in some areas but strangely grossly underrated in his punching power. He's got power to knock almost anyone down or out; it's just he's not aggressive enough sometimes to be able to do that.

He couldn't put away the one-eye vunerable Juarez. He was aggressive when he fought Barrera and Juarez. He was well conditioned when he fought Pac.

What I'm saying is he left his punching power at jr featherweight. He has zero KO or KD at SF.

If you say so....... hmmm .......then, I'll go with you.

Reps coming your way kapatid. I have to spread them first.

**SaltyBacon** · 05-31-2008 06:08 AM

imo daniel ponce de leon

**pacfan** · 05-31-2008 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Originally Posted by pacfan

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

He couldn't put away the one-eye vunerable Juarez. He was aggressive when he fought Barrera and Juarez. He was well conditioned when he fought Pac.

What I'm saying is he left his punching power at jr featherweight. He has zero KO or KD at SF.

If you say so....... hmmm .......then, I'll go with you.

Reps coming your way kapatid. I have to spread them first.

No problema, pare. You're doing a heck of a job here for all us pacboys so you're the boss.

**southakron314** · 05-21-2008 01:11 PM

Cotto and Pavlik are the hardest hitters in their weigh class no doubt about it. The way they both use their power is great. Watching them fight is like watching some one getting tortured. They take you apart.