This word... BUM... IT'S GARBAGE!

[donnydarkoIRL]

What we WANT is irrelevant. The fact is people possess a trait known as 'common sense.' Common sense is what illuminates the fact that there are champions, and there are belt holders. John Ruiz was a belt holder. Accept it and move on.

By your logic "Belt Holders" such as Joe Calzaghe, Floyd Maywether and Oscar De la Hoya were not World Champions.

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Maybe you can educate me. What belt does Oscar de la Hoya hold?

Bye

[donnydarkoIRL]

Maybe you can educate me. What belt does Oscar de la Hoya hold?

Bye

Up until may 5th of last year he held the WBC Light Middleweight Championship....But he wasn't a world Champ because he never unified the belt. Thats your belief correct?

He won the WBC Welter title against JCC and defended it up until Oba Carr, but he wasn't a champion at all because he didn't unify. Thats what your logic Suggests right?

He won the Lightweight Strap against Jimmy Breadahl, but he wasn't real champ then because he didn't unify until he fought Rafael Ruelas right?

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I guess you didn't read my post. I said people possess a trait known as 'common sense.' Common sense tells you that you shouldn't have to have someone else tell you who the best fighter in a division is. Common sense is what pointed out to people that Floyd Mayweather was the best at 140 and not Ricky Hatton, even though Hatton beat Tzsyu.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I guess you didn't read my post. I said people possess a trait known as 'common sense.' Common sense tells you that you shouldn't have to have someone else tell you who the best fighter in a division is. Common sense is what pointed out to people that Floyd Mayweather was the best at 140 and not Ricky Hatton, even though Hatton beat Tzsyu.

Actually the common consensus is represented by the Ring Magazine's ratings.
This system is held in high regard by all and is generally accepted as the best system available to us and they had Ricky Hatton as their Champion upon his upset victory over Kostya Tszyu. Not Mayweather. You will find few to agree with you there.

Without a formal ranking system boxing would descend into an even more blurry mess with more fighters claiming that they are the champion and various sects of fans inclined to believe them. This disuades the use of "common sense."

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Actually the common consensus is represented by the Ring Magazine's ratings.
This system is held in high regard by all and is generally accepted as the best system available to us and they had Ricky Hatton as their Champion upon his upset victory over Kostya Tszyu. Not Mayweather. You will find few to agree with you there.

Without a formal ranking system boxing would descend into an even more blurry mess with more fighters claiming that they are the champion and various sects of fans inclined to believe them. This disuades the use of "common sense."

Um, actually, it doesn't, considering Floyd was 'Ring Magazine's' #1 P4P fighter in the world

[donnydarkoIRL]

Um, actually, it doesn't, considering Floyd was 'Ring Magazine's' #1 P4P fighter in the world

Pound for Pound is an abstract Title which has actually no physical semblance in Boxing terms.

One could be the pound for pound most talented fighter in the world, but by failing to fight for a world title, he never becomes a champion.

Your contradictory posts are really pretty amusing.

[Ghost]

Actually the common consensus is represented by the Ring Magazine's ratings.
This system is held in high regard by all and is generally accepted as the best system available to us

To the fans maybe, but not to all those in the industry.