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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Pac beat up Barrera 5 years ago. What are you talking about?

    Plus, saying a prime Pac wouldn't have had a chance against a raw 130 PBF is an unsourced statement.
    If PBF mixed the craftiness he has now with the lightning speed he had at 130 he'd beat PAC everyday of the week. I'd say raw 130 PBF would beat PAC.

    Everyone analyses PBF's record so lets look at PACs.

    Last 8 fights
    3k Battery, not a great fighter.
    Erik Morales, PAC lost
    Hector Velasquez, not a great fighter
    Erik Morales, good win for PAC.
    Oscar Larios, moved up 2 divisions to fight PAC, had just been Ko'd in 3 by 122 Vasquez
    ERik Morales Morales more than SHOT
    Jorge Solis not a great fighter
    MAB was old and SHOT.

    PAC is a great fighter, but u cannot accuse PBF of ducking guys and only fighting easy money fights when PAC does exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    If PBF mixed the craftiness he has now with the lightning speed he had at 130 he'd beat PAC everyday of the week. I'd say raw 130 PBF would beat PAC.

    Everyone analyses PBF's record so lets look at PACs.

    Last 8 fights
    3k Battery, not a great fighter.
    Erik Morales, PAC lost
    Hector Velasquez, not a great fighter
    Erik Morales, good win for PAC.
    Oscar Larios, moved up 2 divisions to fight PAC, had just been Ko'd in 3 by 122 Vasquez
    ERik Morales Morales more than SHOT
    Jorge Solis not a great fighter
    MAB was old and SHOT.

    PAC is a great fighter, but u cannot accuse PBF of ducking guys and only fighting easy money fights when PAC does exactly the same thing.
    Now tell me eagle, can you name me someone whom PAcquaio had ducked before?

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    The more I think about it, the closer I Think Pacman vs Mayweather would have been at 130... mayweather has a lot of trouble against that straight left hand, and PAcquaio throws that cross as good as anyone throws a cross. I think Mayweather for sure wins because Pacquaio would either get KO'ed or he would get hurt and stop throwing like against MArquez during the middle of the fihgt, but it would be a close fight, until like I said Pacquaio gets countered because Mayweather was stronger, bigger, faster, and better than the Marquez that fought Pacquaio.

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    I sincerely believe that if Hopkins defeats Calzaghe, which I think he is quite capable of doing. Then he deserves to be ranked as THE #1 P4P Fighter in the world.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    if hopkins beats calzaghe he should be number 1

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Now tell me eagle, can you name me someone whom PAcquaio had ducked before?
    Guzman
    Valero

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    Mayweather by a country mile.

    Wasn't long ago that Hopkins lost twice in a row to Taylor.

    Regardless of wether or not you think he was robbed, he still lost.

    So i vote Mayweather.....by far.

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    If PBF mixed the craftiness he has now with the lightning speed he had at 130 he'd beat PAC everyday of the week. I'd say raw 130 PBF would beat PAC.

    Everyone analyses PBF's record so lets look at PACs.

    Last 8 fights
    3k Battery, not a great fighter.
    Erik Morales, PAC lost
    Hector Velasquez, not a great fighter
    Erik Morales, good win for PAC.
    Oscar Larios, moved up 2 divisions to fight PAC, had just been Ko'd in 3 by 122 Vasquez
    ERik Morales Morales more than SHOT
    Jorge Solis not a great fighter
    MAB was old and SHOT.

    PAC is a great fighter, but u cannot accuse PBF of ducking guys and only fighting easy money fights when PAC does exactly the same thing.
    First of all, I'm not accusing PBF of ducking anybody. I don't know where'd ya that from, you prolly mistaken me from someone else. And second, I disagree with your excuses and whacked up theory.

    What makes you say Pac is avoiding Guzman and Valero? Pac had to take care of the top dogs first. Don't worry, they'll get their chance to smooch the canvas too. They're gonna have to wait in line. Tsk! tsk! What can I say?.. So many fighters, so lil' time for Pac.

    Saying Pac is avoiding Guzman and Valero is 100% bullcrap.

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    Default Re: Best P4P Mayweather or Hopkins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    First of all, I'm not accusing PBF of ducking anybody. I don't know where'd ya that from, you prolly mistaken me from someone else. And second, I disagree with your excuses and whacked up theory.

    What makes you say Pac is avoiding Guzman and Valero? Pac had to take care of the top dogs first. Don't worry, they'll get their chance to smooch the canvas too. They're gonna have to wait in line. Tsk! tsk! What can I say?.. So many fighters, so lil' time for Pac.

    Saying Pac is avoiding Guzman and Valero is 100% bullcrap.
    The point is PBF deserves to be P4P #1 end of story.

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