Juan Diaz P4P huh?Dear me....

[El Gamo]

I had Juan Diaz in my P4P list and i don't see there was anything wrong with it, Acelino Freitas, Julio Diaz, were very good wins and IMO Diaz rightfully deserved to be in the top 10 P4P. Obviously he is out of my P4P list now but im not writing him off i think he will beat Campbell in a rematch and get back to dominating Lightweight division, not to make excuses but i think the head butt early on that caused the cut was a big disadvantage for Diaz, he had never dealt with anything like that before but he passed with flying colors and was able to last the distance. I think it was a good learning experience for Diaz and he will comeback stronger than ever from this loss you mark my words.

Cristian Mijares has some good wins.Carlos Quintana has some good wins.They aren't P4P.Like I said before,no-one really put forward a solid case for Juan Diaz to be P4P,it was simply a case of,he's unbeaten,has 2-3 decent wins,why not put him in there.

And I agree,I think he'll come back but it goes to show putting him in the P4P lists was rather premature. Nate would have beaten him,cut or no cut.Julio couldnt out will and break down Campbell, and that's a HUGE part of his game.And I really don't understand the "he passed with flying colours " part:he lost.He did well to survive.

[ICB]

Cristian Mijares has some good wins.Carlos Quintana has some good wins.They aren't P4P.Like I said before,no-one really put forward a solid case for Juan Diaz to be P4P,it was simply a case of,he's unbeaten,has 2-3 decent wins,why not put him in there.

And I agree,I think he'll come back but it goes to show putting him in the P4P lists was rather premature. Nate would have beaten him,cut or no cut.Julio couldnt out will and break down Campbell, and that's a HUGE part of his game.And I really don't understand the "he passed with flying colours " part:he lost.He did well to survive.

I'll admit i went on Juan Diaz bandwagon i was very impressed with his two wins over Freitas, Julio Diaz. Maybe i did put him up there a bit premature but im not going to lie and say i didn't think he deserved to be there just because he lost. And my opinion of him hasn't changed at all, and what i meant by passed with flying colors, is that Diaz dealt with that adversity of being badly cut and his eye being virtually closed. But yet he kept coming forward and never gave up, Campbell was just superb rolling with Diaz's punches and throwing almost 1200 + punches. I think it was more to do with how great Campbell fought rather than Diaz *being exposed*. I think Diaz's biggest weakness is that he has no power and that cost him tonight. But like i said he will be back stronger than ever and IMO he will beat Campbell in a rematch.

[Mikkel_K]

Like I said before,no-one really put forward a solid case for Juan Diaz to be P4P,it was simply a case of,he's unbeaten,has 2-3 decent wins,why not put him in there.

And I agree,I think he'll come back but it goes to show putting him in the P4P lists was rather premature.

I think it was also due to the fact that Juan Diaz held 3 alphabet belts (and - Ring belt or not - was generally considered the MAN) in one of the most prestigious divisions in boxing. That on paper should be enough to qualify you for p4p consideration, especially given he was undefeated to boot.

Personally I never had him in the top 10 (probably top 20 though), and I agree today's hindsight proves he never belonged there, but to laugh at the very notion of him being p4p seems a bit over the top.

[El Gamo]

I think it was also due to the fact that Juan Diaz held 3 alphabet belts (and - Ring belt or not - was generally considered the MAN) in one of the most prestigious divisions in boxing. That on paper should be enough to qualify you for p4p consideration, especially given he was undefeated to boot.

Personally I never had him in the top 10 (probably top 20 though), and I agree today's hindsight proves he never belonged there, but to laugh at the very notion of him being p4p seems a bit over the top.

Certainly,he was a top 20 contender,but in the top 10 fighters in the world,based on his record(which is good but not P4P just yet),absolutely not imo and I feel fully vindicated now. I certainly wasn't laughing at the notion but I thought people were getting carried away by the hype,that's all.

[:::PSL:::]

I think it was also due to the fact that Juan Diaz held 3 alphabet belts (and - Ring belt or not - was generally considered the MAN) in one of the most prestigious divisions in boxing. That on paper should be enough to qualify you for p4p consideration, especially given he was undefeated to boot.

Personally I never had him in the top 10 (probably top 20 though), and I agree today's hindsight proves he never belonged there, but to laugh at the very notion of him being p4p seems a bit over the top.

Yea. This just proves that belts doesn't mean sh1t that much these days.

[Pavlik]

If Baby Bull had a lil more Pop in his punches he will be almost unstoppable because as of now if you can WITHSTAND his barrage and have POWER looks like the kid doesnt have a plan B I can just imagine if he is up against a fighter who can stick and move with the same handpseed and stamina as him but with more POWER how can he cope?

[The Rookie Fan]

Yea. This just proves that belts doesn't mean sh1t that much these days.

I think this is unfair. I don't give a sh*t what The Ring sais. Baby Bull was the man at 135. Casa is done and he clearly loss his last fight bad. And I still think Diaz would beat Casa.

Cambell pulled an Ace off his sleave and fought the perfect fight to win. Diaz is still young and this loss might do one of two things. Either he decides to he wants to be a lawyer and leaves boxing or he becomes rededicated to the sport and comes back better than he was.

If I was a fair man I would say go be a lawyer and make some money while being nice and confertable in some leather chair at a big office. But I'm a boxing fan so I'm hoping for the latter option.

[Galaxy]

I think this is unfair. I don't give a sh*t what The Ring sais. Baby Bull was the man at 135. Casa is done and he clearly loss his last fight bad. And I still think Diaz would beat Casa.

Cambell pulled an Ace off his sleave and fought the perfect fight to win. Diaz is still young and this loss might do one of two things. Either he decides to he wants to be a lawyer and leaves boxing or he becomes rededicated to the sport and comes back better than he was.

If I was a fair man I would say go be a lawyer and make some money while being nice and confertable in some leather chair at a big office. But I'm a boxing fan so I'm hoping for the latter option.

No offense but your part of the problem then! The Ring championship is the hardest to win... you gotta beat the man to be the man!

Diaz may have been considered the best fighter in the division before his loss to Campbell & Ring mag quite rightfully ranked him at #1. To be the champ you have to beat the champ simple as that! I agree Casamayor should have lost his last fight to Santa Cruz but the judges didn't score it that way & Joel kept his championship. History is scattered with bad decisions it's something we have to live with. But the fact is Casamayor got the nod. Had Santa Cruz won he'd be considered champ & not Diaz, so either way Diaz may have been the best fighter in the division just not the champion!