the only thing that is disgrace are the critics of Wladimir Klitschko

[TruthandHonesty]

you are a perfect example of a critic, I was looking for a example of a ciritic
thank you for your help!

[RP33]

you are a perfect example of a critic, I was looking for a example of a ciritic
thank you for your help!

crit·ic (krĭt'ĭk)
n.
One who forms and expresses judgments of the merits, faults, value, or truth of a matter.

I think you're using the wrong word here my friend.. This site is full of boxing CRITICS.. being a 'critic' does not mean that you only point out negative things about the subject matter.. it is just analyzing the reality of a situation..


Kirkland Laing (the poster ) said it best.. "He would have had trouble finding work as a sparring partner in the 1970s. His last fight was a disgrace."


If you think that Klitschko shouldn't have KO'd Ibragimov, then you are in denial.. Even his TRAINER told him if he didn't KO him it was bad.. It wasn't because he couldn't hit him, it was because he was afraid of the southpaw's counterpunch, he said it HIMSELF in the interview.. He played it safe, and won, yes, props to him, but the fact that he knocked Ibragimov's ass into the ropes (which could've been scored a knockdown) while spending barely any effort, the fact is that the fight should've ended in a KO.. Now if it was floyd mayweather, the p4p king we're talking about, and he wins a UD, then that's his style and no one can knock him for that.. but the "undisputed" HW Champ, who is a fucking GIANT, being afraid of a counter puncher? Give me a break.. unless the guy was Mike Tyson, if you're that big you shouldn't be afraid to knock the guys lights out.. end of story.

[TruthandHonesty]

Ali is great without a doubt but he has had that many fight going the full distant and if I asked you to list all the fighter that have been the distant with him, it surely would take you some time.

First of samuel peter and Sultan Ibragimov have never been ko in their pro career and maybe no one hurt them in their kiddie day as a amateur.

And these are the only 2 fighter that have gone 12 round against wladimir and never been ko by Wladimir. It useless to mention chris byrd since he did get ko by Wladimir but let not forget that every fighter that has gone 12 round against wladimir has been world champion at one point.


Name me any fighter in the heavyweight history that can make this claim

also
Both Ibragimov and samuel peter would still be undefeated if their never fought wladimir, they even would have been undisputed by now if their never fought Wladimir

I wouldn't compare Wladimir to any fighter from the past since he too good, and even the 70's fighter would fail to find the worst heavyweight sparring partner from today era since they barely would make the cruiserweight limit.

However Wladimir could beat any fighter from the 70's since he was only 4 years old and would be small enough for the heavyweight back then, now he too big and it would be impossible for him to fight anyone from the 70's since he don't have a time machine, also critic like you would once again get the chance to pick on him for bullying little boys

You just name me the hardest puncher from any era(except wladimir) and I will prove to you that there were weak fighter that went 12-15 round against them but got ko by other fighter . But you can never say that about Wladimir

[Mar]

I had to stop and question this post when it started by saying he is the best fighter ever..(if there is even such a thing) Klitchko is getting a ton of flack and all of it is deserved. It was a horrible and boring show for most and to be happy holding your arm out on a kid's forhead and just sit there and let him swing for 12 rounds isn't the sign of a guy who is so called the "best ever". That being said although there is a lot of disappointment for wlad to take a night off against a fighter who only had one plan jab and move inside doesn't really bother me. Wlad is the only thing that has brought excitment to this division for some time now so it's silly to forget all he recent fights to bash him for this one constantly. This will pass like everything else in the "you are only as good as your last fight world that is boxing" he will be impressive his next time out and all this will be forgot. Unless he looses, and even then the fact that he has pretty much run this division shouldn't be forgot.

[RP33]

I had to stop and question this post when it started by saying he is the best fighter ever..(if there is even such a thing) Klitchko is getting a ton of flack and all of it is deserved. It was a horrible and boring show for most and to be happy holding your arm out on a kid's forhead and just sit there and let him swing for 12 rounds isn't the sign of a guy who is so called the "best ever". That being said although there is a lot of disappointment for wlad to take a night off against a fighter who only had one plan jab and move inside doesn't really bother me. Wlad is the only thing that has brought excitment to this division for some time now so it's silly to forget all he recent fights to bash him for this one constantly. This will pass like everything else in the "you are only as good as your last fight world that is boxing" he will be impressive his next time out and all this will be forgot. Unless he looses, and even then the fact that he has pretty much run this division shouldn't be forgot.

agree 100% Mar..

Don't get me wrong, I like Wlad, but I was more specifically just speaking on his last fight.. I wouldn't have anything bad to say about him if someone didn't start a topic like this, attempting to defend a poor performance of his..

"TruthandHonesty":.. I think Wlad is a good fighter, best ever? not even close, and to compare him and his STYLE to Ali is a joke.. Two different animals my friend..

I'll say it again.. if you don't think his last performance was poor, then you are in denial and you're a nut hugger.

[TruthandHonesty]

you should not call Ali or Wladimir animals, Ali himself said in the parkinson show that he is no animal but a muslim. And how is Wladimir a animal, he is literally the definition of a human, chech out the dictionary.
Am not calling you a Wladimir hater but you could have said that the guy only 31 years old and could make a consecutive of 30 defence if he was to remain undefeated for the next 10 years.
But you basically said no he not the best ever fighter and just closed the door there, also if you read what I wrote carefully I did call it a lackluster performance, but didn't both of tyson fight go 12 round when he unified the title example james smith and tony tucker (which was such a close fight), didn't lewis fight go the distant 2 times against ancient holyfield when lewis fought for unification, both fight were close.
Do you really think wladimir next unification fight will go the distant, let not forget that samule peter and ruslan chagaev have never been ko. But toney tucker has, james smith has, holyfield has.

[JT Rock]

This is the dumbest thread I have ever read... Klit the Greatest of All time

yea Greatest Heavyweight Pussy Of All Time

[RP33]

you should not call Ali or Wladimir animals, Ali himself said in the parkinson show that he is no animal but a muslim. And how is Wladimir a animal, he is literally the definition of a human, chech out the dictionary.
Am not calling you a Wladimir hater but you could have said that the guy only 31 years old and could make a consecutive of 30 defence if he was to remain undefeated for the next 10 years.
But you basically said no he not the best ever fighter and just closed the door there, also if you read what I wrote carefully I did call it a lackluster performance, but didn't both of tyson fight go 12 round when he unified the title example james smith and tony tucker (which was such a close fight), didn't lewis fight go the distant 2 times against ancient holyfield when lewis fought for unification, both fight were close.
Do you really think wladimir next unification fight will go the distant, let not forget that samule peter and ruslan chagaev have never been ko. But toney tucker has, james smith has, holyfield has.

Is this a joke?

I don't mean literally an animal..

it is a figure of speech..

read a book, degenerate.

[BIG H]

This thread is

Gotta laugh - a guy that has been KTFO by Sanders and Brewster - GOAT