Is Linear Championship as prestigious than the alphabets?

[SweetPea]

The Ring Magazine belts are the ONLY ones that matter.

I couldn't even tell you who owns the WBC, WBA, IBF in any of the divisions, because they're completely worthless.

[Master]

Ricky Hatton may not hold any major title but he is considered the true champion at light welterweight.

[HattonTheHammer]

ring magazine should not be considered an actual championship more an accurate evaluation of divisional rankings.

Nadal won wimbledon but he is still 2nd in the world
Italy won the world cup but theyre not number 1 in the fifa rankings

Rankings are an estimation of who exactly is the best, but a championship it isnt!!

[Lance Uppercut]

If the Ring doesn't keep track of who the Real Champions are, then who will?

The alphabet gangs so regularly strip titles, award titles, and create interim and "regular" titles, that there is no way of telling who the champ of each division is.

That is where the Ring comes in. All they are really doing is following the lineage of the Championship, but it is rapidly gaining approval from the boxing world which is sick of the corrupt alphabet gangs which have driven the sport into obscurity(in the US)

[brucelee]

my answer to that question would be a NO!.


Lineal Championship is more prestigious than alphabet belts.

[CutMeMick]

Jones inherited Michazelski titles.
He was scared to box outside America.
Michazelski has more claim to being the linear champ than Jones ever had.

Amen, to that.

For those who don't know the history behind lineal champs for the Heavys & Ligh Heavys here it is I'll do the last few:

HW: Holy, Moorer, Foreman, Briggs, Lewis, Rahman, Lewis.
LHW: Spinks, Hill, Dariusz, Gonzalez, Erdie

I didn't make them up, don't believe me look them up.

[amat]

The Ring Belt is the one that matters. Even lineal champions can be fake champs like Dariusz was at 175.

[boozeboxer]

Ricky Hatton may not hold any major title but he is considered the true champion at light welterweight.

and the greatest boxer EVER. Knocked out a prime castillo with the best body shot EVER.

[antimoron]

Ricky Hatton may not hold any major title but he is considered the true champion at light welterweight.

and the greatest boxer EVER. Knocked out a prime castillo with the best body shot EVER.

Prime castillo i don't think so mate.. He knocked an old castillo who was battling the weigh-ins than the actual fight.

anyway, alphabet titles and linear titles as well are fraud sometimes. Take a look at casamayor.. lets be honest here.. isn't that fight with santa cruz he was gifted? How come they award that to el cepillo. it should be vacant until someone else unify the division. back to square 1. Campbell is the front runner in there so does pacman. We already know that casmayor wants no piece of campbell so thats another issue. Legitimate number 1 campbell has the right to fight the champion. But the champion ducks him.. so strip him for not fighting the best around. sad but true. Now that Ring Mag was owned by a promoter (which happen to be the promoter of casamayor)... i doubt if still has the credibility like they used too. so on and on... this is the problem in boxing. alphabet titles if unify is far more credible now than 1 linear Mag award controlled by a certain powerful promoter.

[Lance Uppercut]

Ricky Hatton may not hold any major title but he is considered the true champion at light welterweight.

and the greatest boxer EVER. Knocked out a prime castillo with the best body shot EVER.

Prime castillo i don't think so mate.. He knocked an old castillo who was battling the weigh-ins than the actual fight.

Hey antimoron, I think he was using something that us morons like to call sarcasm.

[fan johnny]

Who made "The Ring magazine" God? or all knowing?

Opinions are "subjective" if you don't know the meaning of the word, look it up!

A "Linear Champion" is subjective and has no more or less validity than do the Alphabet Belts. "Prestigious" depends on how many followers respect the title holder. Some "Champions" carry more prestige than others.

The man who beat the man... what a load of BS! The only "True Boxing Champion" is a "UNDISPUTED CHAMPION" including a Linear Champion. You know when there is "one" because everyone agrees he is the "Champion".

The Ring, WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO and any other contender; when you hold them "ALL" you will surely be an "UNDISPUTED CHAMPION" otherwise you only hold the "Opinion" of the respective followers.

BTW: The Ring Magazine editor Nigel Collins is not "All knowing".

[killersheep]

Who made "The Ring magazine" God? or all knowing?

Opinions are "subjective" if you don't know the meaning of the word, look it up!

A "Linear Champion" is subjective and has no more or less validity than do the Alphabet Belts. "Prestigious" depends on how many followers respect the title holder. Some "Champions" carry more prestige than others.

The man who beat the man... what a load of BS! The only "True Boxing Champion" is a "UNDISPUTED CHAMPION" including a Linear Champion. You know when there is "one" because everyone agrees he is the "Champion".

The Ring, WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO and any other contender; when you hold them "ALL" you will surely be an "UNDISPUTED CHAMPION" otherwise you only hold the "Opinion" of the respective followers.

BTW: The Ring Magazine editor Nigel Collins is not "All knowing".

Wrong, the policies of the alphabet straps make is next to impossible to unify nowadays. Say fighter 'X' holds the WBO and WBC titles. Without even stepping into the ring fighter 'X' can lose those straps because of the following.
A) Promotional problems and poor business decisions, make it impossible to pay sanctioning fees
Result: Both titles stripped

B) The WBO and WBC have the same timeline requirement to get a mandatory in, but the boxers for the mandatory are different. Fighter 'X' chooses to defend the WBO title
Result: WBC strips the title

C) The WBO decides fighter 'X' is not a good representitive of their organization
Result: WBO strips the title

D) The WBC decides they don't agree with the official decision in the previous fight.
Result: WBC strips the title, and gives it to the man fighter 'X' just beat

E) Fighter 'X' decides he wants to unify against the IBF strapholder.
Result: WBC and WBO don't recognize the IBF champ existing so they both strip the titles

These sound crazy but they are all scenarios that have happened. The Ring Champioship is the only way to properly keep track of who the real champ is. Alphabet straps are nothing more than a marketing tool. Sure you will get more respect if you have more of them, but the only one that ultimately matters is The Ring.

[boozeboxer]

and the greatest boxer EVER. Knocked out a prime castillo with the best body shot EVER.

Prime castillo i don't think so mate.. He knocked an old castillo who was battling the weigh-ins than the actual fight.

Hey antimoron, I think he was using something that us morons like to call sarcasm.

Lance I miss you. Every thread is ohw the alpha belts are corrupt.

[Lance Uppercut]

Prime castillo i don't think so mate.. He knocked an old castillo who was battling the weigh-ins than the actual fight.

Hey antimoron, I think he was using something that us morons like to call sarcasm.

Lance I miss you. Every thread is ohw the alpha belts are corrupt.

what are you talking about? I am right here. And your right, the alphabet gangs are corrupt.

[bambamdaddio]

This must have been the quickest poll answer Ive ever given ... linear every day of the week for me ...