Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
The reason the ref called the knock down is valid in my opinion, the only reason Rafa didn't go down was because he grabbed on to the ropes, which is considered a knock down. It's not like the ropes just happened to hold him up (as I believe happened in Enzo's case, I could be wrong here though), he actually grabbed on to them to keep from going down. It was a fair call.
Regardless, score-wise wouldn't a standing 8 be considered the same thing as a KD? I don't even know if there is such a thing as a standing 8 count in professional boxing...

Yea there is a standing 8 in the pro's, but it seems most commissions have strayed from it recently.. It wouldn't be scored any differently that a KD though, I was really just going off topic ranting. I haven't rewatched the 12th round since I saw it, if Rafa did indeed grab onto the ropes then a KD was the right call.. Either way, a 10-7 round would have been perfectly ok. And with Haye-Enzo he didn't didn't grab the ropes or anything, Haye knocked Enzo back hard he just hit the ropes and sort of got propped up into a crouch where he continued to get beat on. I think that either case should be called a KD, if a guy is knocked silly from a punch and going right onto his ass but the ropes just happen to keep him upright, he should get a count imo. I was just pointing out that technically Marquez didn't touch the ground as are the rules.