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    Default Re: I thought JMM won the fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Definitely even in defeat they showed great courage and determination, Juan Manuel especially.

    I feel sorry for Marquez I really thought he did enough, but just like when Ricky Hatton moved up to face Luis Collazo the judges were always going to look more favourably on the bigger name and more commercial prospect.

    Not to suggest this was a conscious thing, but subconsciously I think the popular big name fighters tend to get the edge in close fights.

    Sadly I feel that will be the last great Marquez performance. At 34 I think that fight will have taken its toll on him.

    I also think Manny is on the decline now too.
    im not sure about manny being on the decline. i think he is not comfy at 130 anymore. although he made weight but he ballooned up to 145. i think thats way too heavy to gain in one day. i think he got tired quickly. and manny is trying to fight a different style. i dont agree with it. i think he should go back to his old style of fighting with pure aggression and mix up a lil counterpunching and boxing. thats his bread and butter right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Definitely even in defeat they showed great courage and determination, Juan Manuel especially.

    I feel sorry for Marquez I really thought he did enough, but just like when Ricky Hatton moved up to face Luis Collazo the judges were always going to look more favourably on the bigger name and more commercial prospect.

    Not to suggest this was a conscious thing, but subconsciously I think the popular big name fighters tend to get the edge in close fights.

    Sadly I feel that will be the last great Marquez performance. At 34 I think that fight will have taken its toll on him.

    I also think Manny is on the decline now too.
    im not sure about manny being on the decline. i think he is not comfy at 130 anymore. although he made weight but he ballooned up to 145. i think thats way too heavy to gain in one day. i think he got tired quickly. and manny is trying to fight a different style. i dont agree with it. i think he should go back to his old style of fighting with pure aggression and mix up a lil counterpunching and boxing. thats his bread and butter right there.
    I totally agree on you on this Josef.Pacquaio should fight with the same aggression he had before. He somewhat lost his killer instinct in that fight.

    Manny should be doing what he had done during the 1st round in their first fight. He did it in the third round but he seemed to have forgotten that strategy for the rest of the fight.

    Sabi ko nga, "suntok, suntok, atras". That was how to defeat Marquez.When Manny started to do it that in the third round, I knew then that Marquez will be in trouble.

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    Default Re: I thought JMM won the fight.

    I'm surprised so many thought Marquez got screwed. It was a VERY close fight and the knockdown made the differnce IMO.
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    Default Re: I thought JMM won the fight.

    I had Marquez up 115-112. It was a great fight & very close but I thought JMM should have got the nod... a draw at the very least would have been fair!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    I had Marquez up 115-112. It was a great fight & very close but I thought JMM should have got the nod... a draw at the very least would have been fair!
    for marquez fans of course they thought he won, for us pac fans we thought pac won. the judges did their very best to score it and the KD really made the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    I had Marquez up 115-112. It was a great fight & very close but I thought JMM should have got the nod... a draw at the very least would have been fair!
    for marquez fans of course they thought he won, for us pac fans we thought pac won. the judges did their very best to score it and the KD really made the difference.
    I ain't a Marquez fan, never have been. Just scored the fight the way I saw it. The knock down didn't make the difference IMO as my final tally was 115-112 for JMM. IMO the judges got it wrong, it was a great fight spoiled by a bad decision. I'm not saying it wasn't close but the wrong guy got the win IMO!
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    Default Re: I thought JMM won the fight.

    i had it 115-112 for marquez also

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