Who Poses The Biggest Threat If Any To Wladimir Klitschko?

[Wayne]

David Haye, without doubt.

Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.

Case. In. Point.

Lyle, you really think Peter has gotten worse? Peter gave Maskaev a whole lot more movement than he'd ever done pre-Klitschko, defensively. And he's less ept to rely solely on his power. He seems more likely to look for his opponent to show weakness rather than just trying to cut him down. I don't know about Peter winning, though. I do think it will be more of a competitive fight the second time around rather than a landslide.

Check out my article: Wham, Bam, Thank You Sam.

[El Kabong]

David Haye, without doubt.

Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.

Case. In. Point.

Lyle, you really think Peter has gotten worse? Peter gave Maskaev a whole lot more movement than he'd ever done pre-Klitschko, defensively. And he's less ept to rely solely on his power. He seems more likely to look for his opponent to show weakness rather than just trying to cut him down. I don't know about Peter winning, though. I do think it will be more of a competitive fight the second time around rather than a landslide.

Check out my article: Wham, Bam, Thank You Sam.

You wrote a great article but just the impression Sam Peter has left on me since his loss to Wlad it seems that something is missing from him. Sam Peter has developed a better jab....no one is going to outjab Wladimir. Sam has done better to not rely solely on his power but he hasn't developed better boxing skills to an extent to where he can outbox rather than out muscle most of his opponents.

Right now Sam Peter is kind of like the Oscar De la Hoya that fought Fernando Vargas, you see what he's trying to do but it isn't looking pretty and it isn't efficient...he looks worse because he's being trained to do other things, maybe he'll turn it around and learn how to do this better.

You look at Sam Peter's KO's before he fought Wlad and then look at him fight Maskaev #1 Maskaev hurt Sam and #2 Maskaev didn't even go down, and we're talking about a guy who got knocked out of the ring by Kirk Johnson!

With the improvements Sam has made he's made himself more well rounded but he hasn't done anything to make a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko any different than the first fight. Sam's punches are still wide and loopy and because of that he's easier to catch and easier to counter. If Eddie Chambers had any stamina he'd beat Sam Peter

[Wayne]

David Haye, without doubt.

Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.

Case. In. Point.

Lyle, you really think Peter has gotten worse? Peter gave Maskaev a whole lot more movement than he'd ever done pre-Klitschko, defensively. And he's less ept to rely solely on his power. He seems more likely to look for his opponent to show weakness rather than just trying to cut him down. I don't know about Peter winning, though. I do think it will be more of a competitive fight the second time around rather than a landslide.

Check out my article: Wham, Bam, Thank You Sam.

You wrote a great article but just the impression Sam Peter has left on me since his loss to Wlad it seems that something is missing from him. Sam Peter has developed a better jab....no one is going to outjab Wladimir. Sam has done better to not rely solely on his power but he hasn't developed better boxing skills to an extent to where he can outbox rather than out muscle most of his opponents.

Right now Sam Peter is kind of like the Oscar De la Hoya that fought Fernando Vargas, you see what he's trying to do but it isn't looking pretty and it isn't efficient...he looks worse because he's being trained to do other things, maybe he'll turn it around and learn how to do this better.

You look at Sam Peter's KO's before he fought Wlad and then look at him fight Maskaev #1 Maskaev hurt Sam and #2 Maskaev didn't even go down, and we're talking about a guy who got knocked out of the ring by Kirk Johnson!

With the improvements Sam has made he's made himself more well rounded but he hasn't done anything to make a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko any different than the first fight. Sam's punches are still wide and loopy and because of that he's easier to catch and easier to counter. If Eddie Chambers had any stamina he'd beat Sam Peter

Stamina or no, I think Eddie Chambers would realize he's in the wrong weight class if he fought Peter. That peek-a-boo style won't work with someone who can blast through a guard and considering he got shy fighting Povetkin what would he do against someone who hits a lot harder?

I tend to agree with you about Peter. From their first matchup Peter and Klitschko have improved, but Klitschko seems to be on the tail end of his lesson whereas Peter seems to be much closer to the beginning of his. I think part II will be a much more technical, less passionate matchup where Peter more legitimately takes rounds (3, 4 at most) and reduces the amount of looping punches he throws but finds himself getting tied up more on the inside, leaned on and kept at bay with Klitschko's jab (which he'll be able to avoid, but held aloft with it, nonetheless). I would expect Peter to take all his rounds early as Wlad may be somewhat nervous and tends to give away earlier rounds (I initially thought Calvin Brock was doing good work in their match- I think it had more to do with Wlad letting him do what he did). When Klitschko hurt Peter it was when they threw rights at the same time and Wlad's got there first and considering nothing else had that kind of effect and that was more of a 1 in 1000 punch I doubt it happens again. I would say Klitschko will continue to come in at the lighter weight as this worked very well against Ibragimov. I doubt he lost much power but what he gained in footwork and stamina offset any loss significantly.

The one thing that always seems to surprise me about Peter is how big he fights. In the Maskaev fight and in the Klitschko one it didn't seem like either guy towered over him. Peter is 6'1" at best, but he didn't seem to be looking up in those fights; they seemed more eye to eye. I don't remember Klitschko specifically, but Maskaev didn't have a wide stance- he didn't give up his height and Klitschko stopped doing that when Steward came along.

[El Kabong]

I think Calvin Brock would be a good solid fight for Sam Peter in his first title defense. Sam is going to have to learn how to beat a boxer...if he gets more crafty then he'll pose more of a threat but you know what he's thinking all the time when he's fighting "must land haymaker, must land haymaker"


Wladimir Klitschko needs to start jumping on opponents, it's taken him longer to learn than it took Lennox Lewis to learn but he's going to get there and he's going to be even better at KO-ing fighters earlier.

Wlad used to give up his height it hurt him vs Corrie Sanders where Wlad was fighting in a near crouch and it obviously made Corrie's job easier.

I think Wlad has gotten away from clinching too much and I think he's going to use his jab to keep the distance instead of clinching to get out of range. He's going to use the jab as a defensive weapon as well as an offensive one. The left hook of Wlad is what really wobbled Sam Peter and after watching the McCline and Maskaev fights I think hooking off the jab will put an end to any offense Sam Peter can muster.

I think the rematch will be more exciting and there will be a KO in the end.

[Wayne]

I think Calvin Brock would be a good solid fight for Sam Peter in his first title defense. Sam is going to have to learn how to beat a boxer...if he gets more crafty then he'll pose more of a threat but you know what he's thinking all the time when he's fighting "must land haymaker, must land haymaker"


Wladimir Klitschko needs to start jumping on opponents, it's taken him longer to learn than it took Lennox Lewis to learn but he's going to get there and he's going to be even better at KO-ing fighters earlier.

Wlad used to give up his height it hurt him vs Corrie Sanders where Wlad was fighting in a near crouch and it obviously made Corrie's job easier.

I think Wlad has gotten away from clinching too much and I think he's going to use his jab to keep the distance instead of clinching to get out of range. He's going to use the jab as a defensive weapon as well as an offensive one. The left hook of Wlad is what really wobbled Sam Peter and after watching the McCline and Maskaev fights I think hooking off the jab will put an end to any offense Sam Peter can muster.

I think the rematch will be more exciting and there will be a KO in the end.

I think the result will be the same but no ko. Brock would be a good test for Peter. He won't test him too much; Sam more than likely will still win even if he tries to tee off all night and can't clear him out, but he can also try boxing with a boxer. Brock was so nervous-looking against Eddie Chambers of all people that he'll be tired down the stretch and Peter can collect the latter rounds.

Steward tends to train his fighters to be more exciting. He screamed at Lennox to take out Tyson, screamed at Taylor to take out Spinks and screamed at Klitschko to take out Ibragimov. It wasn't that these guys weren't winning- he sees the crowd and knows what it looks like when his fighter is in there not losing as opposed to winning. He had to train Klitschko how to clench because of how quickly things can go wrong for Wlad off one well-placed punch, but you're right, Klitschko is moving away from it. Manny wants him to utilize his greatest talent; that big right hand.

But I don't know if Klitschko will be a 1, 2 or 3 round KO kind of guy. Think of the recent fights he's had where he could have tested his opponent and didn't only to find out the guy really didn't have anything for him and he pulled the trigger later on. Ray Austin is different; I don't think I've ever seen someone take a KO beating from 90% jabs.

Klitschko now fights tall like he should. I'd like to see him fight a little faster. That's one thing Lennox definitely had over him; he could move like he was a lot smaller.

The one thing I do want to go away is the chin talk regarding Peter. Jameel McCline has NEVER been that kind of fighter and strangely he turns into a monster when he fights Peter. I think the pre-fight interview is very indicative of what was really going on. Notice Maskaev wasn't able to produce the same result.

[El Kabong]

The reason I say Wlad would KO Sam Peter is because it's obvious to even the likes of me that Sam Peter is a sucker for the left hook...it's a dangerous game to play hooking with a fighter whose money punch is the left hook but seeing how Wlad can hook off the jab and how Sam Peter's hook is wide I don't think the danger is there for Wlad to go for a KO vs Sam Peter at any point in the fight....besides Sam is looking for the right cross to come down on him so the guard will be perfect for a left hook to land.


I think Wlad can still be the exciting fighter like Lewis or Hearns...sure he uses that jab a ton but it's a GREAT weapon to have that helps out on defense as much as offense. What Wlad needs to start doing is winning the first round! He takes his time ever since the Sanders fight and he needs to realize it's not THAT he jumps on someone early it's HOW he jumps on someone early....vs Sanders he threw crazy punches and fought short giving Sanders the upperhand. You can get to someone early without putting yourself in danger....I don't understand this wait until round 3 to fire the right cross strategy....throw it right out of the gate....land hard early and set the TONE!

With Lennox Lewis he chose which opponents he was going to jump on...Golota, Grant, Botha...he jumped on those guys early and got early KO's. VS other guys he waited. Wlad should really model his career after Lennox as they have a lot in common (something you Brits don't want to admit but it's true) trainer, size, athletic ability, punching power, smarts....Lewis had more natural ring intelligence but Wlad is no dummy. Wlad should see a guy like Povetkin and see how Chambers hurt him and say to himself "I can get this guy in 2-4" after he hits him with the first solid power punch.


Maskaev did hurt Sam Peter though and it's obvious Sam cannot take a left hook the same way he can take a right cross because he can absorb a ton of punishment from right crosses as the fight with Wlad proved

[GermanHitman]

I know i am going way off the beaten path here... but.. all this talk about Sam Peter and who he should fight.. i would LOVE TO SEE HIM FIGHT CORRIE SANDERS!!!!