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David Haye, without doubt.

Slapper boy has got to start running as the Hayemaker is waiting for him.
Case. In. Point.

Lyle, you really think Peter has gotten worse? Peter gave Maskaev a whole lot more movement than he'd ever done pre-Klitschko, defensively. And he's less ept to rely solely on his power. He seems more likely to look for his opponent to show weakness rather than just trying to cut him down. I don't know about Peter winning, though. I do think it will be more of a competitive fight the second time around rather than a landslide.

Check out my article: Wham, Bam, Thank You Sam.
You wrote a great article but just the impression Sam Peter has left on me since his loss to Wlad it seems that something is missing from him. Sam Peter has developed a better jab....no one is going to outjab Wladimir. Sam has done better to not rely solely on his power but he hasn't developed better boxing skills to an extent to where he can outbox rather than out muscle most of his opponents.

Right now Sam Peter is kind of like the Oscar De la Hoya that fought Fernando Vargas, you see what he's trying to do but it isn't looking pretty and it isn't efficient...he looks worse because he's being trained to do other things, maybe he'll turn it around and learn how to do this better.

You look at Sam Peter's KO's before he fought Wlad and then look at him fight Maskaev #1 Maskaev hurt Sam and #2 Maskaev didn't even go down, and we're talking about a guy who got knocked out of the ring by Kirk Johnson!

With the improvements Sam has made he's made himself more well rounded but he hasn't done anything to make a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko any different than the first fight. Sam's punches are still wide and loopy and because of that he's easier to catch and easier to counter. If Eddie Chambers had any stamina he'd beat Sam Peter
Stamina or no, I think Eddie Chambers would realize he's in the wrong weight class if he fought Peter. That peek-a-boo style won't work with someone who can blast through a guard and considering he got shy fighting Povetkin what would he do against someone who hits a lot harder?

I tend to agree with you about Peter. From their first matchup Peter and Klitschko have improved, but Klitschko seems to be on the tail end of his lesson whereas Peter seems to be much closer to the beginning of his. I think part II will be a much more technical, less passionate matchup where Peter more legitimately takes rounds (3, 4 at most) and reduces the amount of looping punches he throws but finds himself getting tied up more on the inside, leaned on and kept at bay with Klitschko's jab (which he'll be able to avoid, but held aloft with it, nonetheless). I would expect Peter to take all his rounds early as Wlad may be somewhat nervous and tends to give away earlier rounds (I initially thought Calvin Brock was doing good work in their match- I think it had more to do with Wlad letting him do what he did). When Klitschko hurt Peter it was when they threw rights at the same time and Wlad's got there first and considering nothing else had that kind of effect and that was more of a 1 in 1000 punch I doubt it happens again. I would say Klitschko will continue to come in at the lighter weight as this worked very well against Ibragimov. I doubt he lost much power but what he gained in footwork and stamina offset any loss significantly.

The one thing that always seems to surprise me about Peter is how big he fights. In the Maskaev fight and in the Klitschko one it didn't seem like either guy towered over him. Peter is 6'1" at best, but he didn't seem to be looking up in those fights; they seemed more eye to eye. I don't remember Klitschko specifically, but Maskaev didn't have a wide stance- he didn't give up his height and Klitschko stopped doing that when Steward came along.