Quote Originally Posted by Tins06 View Post
Got to agree there is nothing Joe can do to get himself p4p no1 spot or 2 really.You can make point after point but it boils down to a simple thing in the end..The names just aint there for Joe.

I mean, he can beat Jones... He can Probably(I hope not but...) beat Hopkins. But these are guys that he should have fought years ago. Jones is nolonger the same fighter although still can fight at or around world level. Who can Joe beat to rocket him to #1... Pavlik would get him close. I mean... If he beat Hopkins, Jones, Taylor and Pavlik I still don't think he could take the second spot from Manny... I just don't... Although that would be a great end to a great career.