Lee vs. Vera

[zupg]

Wasn't this the guy Emanuel Steward was hyping to take down Kelly Pavlik? LOL

LMAO!!!

Yes. Can you imagine what Pavlik would have done to him. Lee needs more experience before stepping into the ring with Pavlik.

I would have to agree. I was not impressed at all by Lee. I don't think Lee would last 4 rounds with Pavlik.

But i do think that was an early stoppage.

[SweetPea]

Anyone who thinks that was the worst stoppage ever hasn't watched a ton of fights.

Was it a questionable decision? Absolutely.

But Lee had taken a ton of punishment and was badly hurt. I'll never fault a ref for trying to protect a young fighter. He was taking way too many flush right hands.

Lee needs to learn some defense if he ever wants to come close to living up to his hype.

[Spicoli]

His Defense was horrific.One saving plus ,He was sitting and timing Vera well in spots but waiting way to much.He believed the hype and was looking for a highlight reel KO,when It didnt come and Vera refused to fold...Lee had no plan B at all

If he has any hope,the loss may be the best thing to happen to him.But with respect to Vera....dude is grade c at best,Lee has a huge ways to go if he hopes to get in with top's.Forget all the ready for a title shot talk LMAO

[PhillyKeith]

I didn't like the stoppage but Lee was standing on banana peels and ready to get dropped. Good fight, Lee was def overrated and over hyped. Credit Vera for his performance.

[Kev]

His Defense was horrific.One saving plus ,He was sitting and timing Vera well in spots but waiting way to much.He believed the hype and was looking for a highlight reel KO,when It didnt come and Vera refused to fold...Lee had no plan B at all

If he has any hope,the loss may be the best thing to happen to him.But with respect to Vera....dude is grade c at best,Lee has a huge ways to go if he hopes to get in with top's.Forget all the ready for a title shot talk LMAO

Actually Vera isn't bad. He was unbeaten coming into the Contender with a win over hot ESPN prospect Samuel Miller. I personally thought he lost that fight but it was close and Miller until his loss to that Darnell guy was considered an ultra hot prospect and KO machine.

He also beat Max Alexander from the Contender who was pretty slick, almost upsetting Sam Soliman on the show so Vera is no slouch.

He got caught early by Codrington but apart from that had a perfect record.

I thought this looked a tough assignment on paper and he really did do himself proud on the night.

I'd say he's B grade, a Jesse Feliciano caliber opponent who could be a tough nights work for even a few A list fighters.

[Hulk]

Good for Brian Vera thats all I can say. I am so stoked he won this fight! Fuck yeah!
He's a tough, hard working, son of a bitch and he earned it.

[Deanrw]

Lee will just claim he was weight drained and move up to 168

[Spicoli]

His Defense was horrific.One saving plus ,He was sitting and timing Vera well in spots but waiting way to much.He believed the hype and was looking for a highlight reel KO,when It didnt come and Vera refused to fold...Lee had no plan B at all

If he has any hope,the loss may be the best thing to happen to him.But with respect to Vera....dude is grade c at best,Lee has a huge ways to go if he hopes to get in with top's.Forget all the ready for a title shot talk LMAO

Actually Vera isn't bad. He was unbeaten coming into the Contender with a win over hot ESPN prospect Samuel Miller. I personally thought he lost that fight but it was close and Miller until his loss to that Darnell guy was considered an ultra hot prospect and KO machine.

He also beat Max Alexander from the Contender who was pretty slick, almost upsetting Sam Soliman on the show so Vera is no slouch.

He got caught early by Codrington but apart from that had a perfect record.

I thought this looked a tough assignment on paper and he really did do himself proud on the night.

I'd say he's B grade, a Jesse Feliciano caliber opponent who could be a tough nights work for even a few A list fighters.

He is No slouch but he is wide open and swings wildly but shows decent chin.He went in and refused to be a foil for a overly packaged up & commer.His resume is dotted with "Contender" accomplishments but tonight Vera turned the page into a bigger fight where he may very well get pulverized Imo.Non the less he showed top resolve and toughness tonight. Good for him and much respect.But honestly,Vera should enjoy his 15 minutes.

[CutMeMick]

Anyone who thinks that was the worst stoppage ever hasn't watched a ton of fights.

Was it a questionable decision? Absolutely.

But Lee had taken a ton of punishment and was badly hurt. I'll never fault a ref for trying to protect a young fighter. He was taking way too many flush right hands.

Lee needs to learn some defense if he ever wants to come close to living up to his hype.

Completely agree here 100%.
Anyone who thinks that this was a bad stopagge is waaay off.

But people don't be alarmed remember plenty of fighters have lost early in their careers and bounced back.

Sweet I'll be sending some Rep. your way...

[Violent Demise]

Worst Stoppage Ever

Calzaghe-Mitchell stoppage was worse. Fuck Lee. Fucking punk was my joker pick for the week

[BoxingGorilla]

I think it was a fine stoppage.

Lee was running on fumes and throwing one arm punch at a time. Vera had the pedal to the metal and letting it roar.

Well... let's just say Vera was still throwing with some kind of meaning.

It was a matter of time and better sooner than later.

[RozzySean]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

[RP33]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

i agree that if they fought again that if Andy Lee even watched a round or two of the tape then he'd know what he did wrong (it was pretty DAMN obvious) and he'd go in and destroy Vera like he should have this time..

Do i think it was an "early stoppage" yes i do, especially considering Andy Lee was throwing back, but do i completely disagree with the refs call? No, I do not..

granted Vera was getting SMACKED with straight left hands all night, but he was never in as bad of shape as andy lee was at the end of the fight.. Vera was landing right hand after right hand and Andy was clearly on weak legs and hanging on to Vera to avoid a knock down.. Vera was never that desperate..

Andy Lee was hanging on for his life and then continued to get hit with hard right hands.. I mean, he really looked like he couldn't defend himself, and that's when the ref is supposed to step in, so i cannot argue with the stoppage..

[CFH]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

I agree. I just saw the fight and I'm not a Lee fan but that stoppage was bullshit. Lee was hurt but he was still firing back. He landed a straigh left right before the ref stopped it. Vera may or may not have finished him, but Lee did not deserve to be stopped at that point. Complete bullshit.

[Spicoli]

Spicoli and Gorilla are so off on this. Bad stoppage. If this ref was working Pavlik/Taylor 1, he would it would have been TKO 2 for Taylor. Lee was hurt, but he was still fighting back. He had staggered Vera in the previous round. Maybe Vera KO's him later that round, but Vera should have been given the opportunity to end it properly and Lee should have been given the opportunity to come back. I'm no huge Andy Lee fan, but if you think this was a good stoppage, you are just too wrapped up in the moment supporting an underdog. I love an upset as much as anybody, but I want to see it called correct. Had Vera won legit, I would be giving him all props, but the stoppage was crap, and if Vera gets back in the ring with Lee, he's going to get his ass handed to him.

Sorry Rozzy but this is the best thing that can happen to Lee right now.....The best of fighters have lost early on and looked to rebound well.Stoppage can be seen by some as Iffy and It will be noted by fans but Hypotheticals are a dime a dozen with comparisons. Lee was getting opened up on by a grade b-c guy in Vera with shots cleanly ,and Lee's body language was tired & Tattered.He was not ultimatley fazing Vera with shots and had no secondary game plan after cut and vera started backing him up.

I am not writing him off and Lee has the physical gifts to build on.I Liked his occasional sneaky inside shots and range but He was out worked and out punched down the stretch.We'll see Lee again and hopefully he can rebuild but he has some work to do.