Another Exposure!!!!!!!

[SigmaMu]

Exposure? No. Bullshit stoppage. Lee was having a bad night, but he was still even or slightly winning the fight. You don't stop a fight when somebody is still throwing back. It's not like Vera was dominating Lee all night. This was crap. I'm saying Lee isn't perhaps a bit overhyped, but if Steve Smoger has been in charge, the fight would have continued. These two will have a rematch and Vera will be outcold, on the canvas within 3 rounds. Shame on Lee for not bringing his A game, but this could have been a FOTY candidate and the pussy-ass ref robbed us of that. It just sucked.

I agree. This is why I like Smoger so much. Smoger has given the fans some of the best fights to remember. Steve Smoger is THEE BEST referee ever. I sometimes think what a lucky guy he is because he has been able to witness some of the best fights in the world up close and personal. Smoger is a legend. Andy Lee and the fans were robbed. This fight shold have ended by knock out and I am not saying who would have got knocked out but some one was going to get knocked out before the fight was over.

PS. I will say this is the only time I wished I were not Smoger. I don't envy him one bit here:
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[superheavyrhun]

We do seem to be seeing some of the "hyped" prospects and young titlists of our current crop of fighters coming a cropper recently, with John Duddy scraping a win and getting his face mashed to mince, Lee getting stopped, Kiko Martinez beaten well, Juan Diaz beaten. And there's plenty more opportunities over coming months too...which ain't necessarily a bad thing.

Sad fact is, the current sport seems to have a small number of elite superstar fighters, and then a lot of average fighters in the tiers below them in many divisions, and people are always eager to see someone who can really shake things up and penetrate that top tier.

[ICB]

He was for certain exposed i didn't jump on Andy Lee band wagon, but i thought he was a solid prospect, but there was a few people like Hitman Donny who thought Lee would of beaten Wright, Pavlik, and quite amazingly a lot of people thought that as well. So yes he was for certain exposed and he certainly isn't as good as i thought he was. A lot of undefeated fighters are either getting exposed or just flat out getting there ass kicked this year, when will it end ??

[p4pking]

Exposure? No. Bullshit stoppage. Lee was having a bad night, but he was still even or slightly winning the fight. You don't stop a fight when somebody is still throwing back. It's not like Vera was dominating Lee all night. This was crap. I'm saying Lee isn't perhaps a bit overhyped, but if Steve Smoger has been in charge, the fight would have continued. These two will have a rematch and Vera will be outcold, on the canvas within 3 rounds. Shame on Lee for not bringing his A game, but this could have been a FOTY candidate and the pussy-ass ref robbed us of that. It just sucked.

aahhh... Where you watching that fight?? It doesn't matter how much of an off night Lee was having, or how much longer you would've liked to see him get hit with slow looping shots. The fact is with the things that were being said about him he had no business in hell losing to Vera, who is an extremely limited fighter. Lee showed many glaring flaws in this fight, which would get him pulvarized against a guy who can actually fight. He can't tie up, doesn't put any shots together, he pulls straight back with his hands low after throwing the 1-2(which is about all he seems to throw). Vera was actually beating him to the jab at times and managed to bust him up with it. Andy Lee won't beat any remotely good fighter anytime soon. Steward was saying he's ready for Pavlik or Winky Wright. I'd call that exposed.

[noskill]

Wow,alot of good stuff in here. My thoughts are that Lee is another "vicitm" of Stewards recent string of being a cursed trainer,lol. Andy showed nothing special except his frickin' tremendous heart,which kept him on his feet throwing by "habit". The stoppage was for Lee's personal safety,not for his lack of being still game in there. He made Vera able to fight the match of his life an dnow we'll have to endure him getting some glory fights off of this. I thank Manny Steward for this. This guy didn't look like he was anywhere near ready for a ten round fight experience wise. His youtube bio and KO films are meant to promote him and not show the bad. We were simply misled and Steward is right on track training fighters to "do what they do" a little better but not teaching any adaptive skills for when a fight actually goes wonky on them.

[BoxingGorilla]

Lee may have gourged on boiled potatoes this St. Patty's day. Maybe that had something to do with his downfall.

[the wiz]

The Katsidis exposure comes tomorrow.

Great call

[armin]

I wouldn't really call the kats fight an exposure as much as inexperience, not like kats got dominated, it was an up and down fight till he got put on his ass for being overly eager imo, showed lots of heart , perhaps not a stellar chin but the willingness to brush it off get up and keep on fighting. Some improvement to his defense and he could turn out to be a dam good fighter.

[Violent Demise]

I wouldn't really call the kats fight an exposure as much as inexperience, not like kats got dominated, it was an up and down fight till he got put on his ass for being overly eager imo, showed lots of heart , perhaps not a stellar chin but the willingness to brush it off get up and keep on fighting. Some improvement to his defense and he could turn out to be a dam good fighter.

I don't care what you call it. Casamayor won. And that's all that matters

[armin]

Vd casa did his job and finished the young fighter, all props to him for doing the job didn't mean to imply anything else. the stoppage was right, I don't like to see a fight go on longer than it should and kats took a good number of flush shots before the fight was stopped, good on casa on being able to finish. Kats deserves props to for putting up a dam good fight and then not comming up with a 100 excuses for why he lost, as seems to be the case with most fighters these days.

[ICB]

I don't think Katsidis got exposed he looked really good against an elite fighter against Casamayor. My estimation of him has gone up, i predicted Casamayor victory but it was much tougher than i expected. Katsidis will be back he fought his heart out he has nothing to be ashamed of.