Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

[donnydarkoIRL]

As I said, I can truely recognise that, but it doesn't take much to be succesful at a domestic level.

[Kev]

As I said, I can truely recognise that, but it doesn't take much to be succesful at a domestic level.

Yeah but it's easy for you to say that you live in Ireland

[donnydarkoIRL]

The Irish domestic scene lives off the English.
Fightrs mingle a lot.
Often it is a win against a British opponent that will move you up the rankings in Ireland.

As for me personally, will I find it easy? No.
I'm either going to America to train or not at all. Domestic level training and competition is not enough.

[Fenster]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

[Kev]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

haha that should be the disclaimer in every Tony Robbins book!

[donnydarkoIRL]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

[Kev]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

[Fenster]

You can't compare "world" champions with journeymen

There is a level of shittiness.

Tony Robbins? Conman.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Thats true.
Persistance and mental fortitude are evrything in boxing.
They're what made JCC great

[DaxxKahn]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style

[Fenster]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

The second part you got right.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

"If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also."


yes that will go a long way but you can't tell me that with all of the above you could turn Nicky Cook in to a Barrera/Morales/Marquez/Pacquiao? I really don't see that happening.

[telboy66]

I have posted on more than one occaision ref Peter buckley he has been a great servant to boxing for the last 20 odd years & given many an up & coming boxer a good learning fight & far from slagging him off he should be praised for his contribution most times he came in at days sometimes hours notice to save a show without the likes of boxers in the Buckley mould many shows would be cancelled. I hope he stays in boxing what better guy to teach the art of self defence

[Shamrock]

I'm a great admirer of Buckley and fighters like him. Some fighters are not as talented or do not get the breaks that the more succesful ones do.

It's easy to say you love a sport when it's all going your way. Try being a guy who for whatever reason knows he isn't going to be the next Naseem, PBF or hitmandonny and still get up and do your road work and spar and smile through the bruises at your day job.

Determination, will to win and a postive outlook are all invaluable but I also believe that some people are born with a natural talent that defines they will be 'great'. Training, traning and more training can make you better than you would have been but with out that 10% natural talent it's never likely to be enough.

Buckley is a true gentlemen of the sport (he has saved shows at few hours notice as already mentioned). I don't think he lacked ambition I think he was down to earth and level headed enough to realise where his market was and he excelled at it.

I hope whatever he does now he finds peace with it.

[Memphis]

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