Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

[Kev]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

haha that should be the disclaimer in every Tony Robbins book!

[donnydarkoIRL]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

[Kev]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

[Fenster]

You can't compare "world" champions with journeymen

There is a level of shittiness.

Tony Robbins? Conman.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Thats true.
Persistance and mental fortitude are evrything in boxing.
They're what made JCC great

[DaxxKahn]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style

[BIG H]

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style

WTF

[Scrap]

_ 3% MAKE IT The odds arnt good Boxing is a strange mix

[donnydarkoIRL]

Just looking at the natural ability thing!!!!

Andy Lee; 3 National Titles
John Duddy; 1 National Title
Paul McCloskey; 3 National TITLES
Barry McGuigan; 2 or 3 National Titles

Hitman Donny; 3 National Titles at 20.

I like my odds.

Just joking son.

If that's the case I like your odds too.

So you're actually quite handy? I didn't realise that. What's your name?

I'm decent.
I rank as a good amateur, but it's the pros that interest me.
I love the pro game and thats what I apsire to!

You can check my name on the article on the front page.

[DaxxKahn]

Just looking at the natural ability thing!!!!

Andy Lee; 3 National Titles
John Duddy; 1 National Title
Paul McCloskey; 3 National TITLES
Barry McGuigan; 2 or 3 National Titles

Hitman Donny; 3 National Titles at 20.

I like my odds.

Just joking son.

If that's the case I like your odds too.

So you're actually quite handy? I didn't realise that. What's your name?

I'm decent.
I rank as a good amateur, but it's the pros that interest me.
I love the pro game and thats what I apsire to!

You can check my name on the article on the front page.

Spend as much time in the amateurs as possible without being kicked out due to olld age...I have faith in you Donny once you turn pro...Even though I never seen you fight...You seem determined...and a top notch guy
Just try to get at least 100 amateur bouts under you before even debating the pro ranks.....Even more if possible no matter how well you do...I want to write about you in the future as a champion and not a could have been

[Fenster]

Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

Everyone has to learn.

And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.

Dunno man.
If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

The second part you got right.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

"If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

Look at Mickey Rourke...


Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also."


yes that will go a long way but you can't tell me that with all of the above you could turn Nicky Cook in to a Barrera/Morales/Marquez/Pacquiao? I really don't see that happening.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I do, it's how they're raised in the sport in my opinion.

[Kev]

I do, it's how they're raised in the sport in my opinion.

Nice little nature/nurture debate going on here.

My own opinion is that nature accounts for maybe 25% of a boxers talent, nurture another 25% but that at least 50% comes from the scientifically unmeasurable quality known as individual human will.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Bilbo I think we're onto the same train of thought here.

A fighters mentality plays a dramatic part in his development.
A fighter needs to be balanced and centred.

I believe Marco Antonio Barrera was a good example.
Not a great natural athlete.But one knew he would become a success due to his sheer will and determination.