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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

    Everyone has to learn.

    And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
    Dunno man.
    If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

    Everyone has to learn.

    And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
    Dunno man.
    If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

    Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    You can't compare "world" champions with journeymen

    There is a level of shittiness.

    Tony Robbins? Conman.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Thats true.
    Persistance and mental fortitude are evrything in boxing.
    They're what made JCC great
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

    Everyone has to learn.

    And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
    Dunno man.
    If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

    Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

    OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Dunno man.
    If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.

    Gavin Rees, Carlos Maussa, Carlos Baldomir and John Ruiz are all proof that talent isn't everything but that sheer luck and persistance can pay off.

    OK I know I am going to get some WTF have you lost your mind remarks for this but...Ruiz was a talented fighter with a boring style
    WTF

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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    _ 3% MAKE IT The odds arnt good Boxing is a strange mix
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Just looking at the natural ability thing!!!!

    Andy Lee; 3 National Titles
    John Duddy; 1 National Title
    Paul McCloskey; 3 National TITLES
    Barry McGuigan; 2 or 3 National Titles

    Hitman Donny; 3 National Titles at 20.

    I like my odds.
    Just joking son.

    If that's the case I like your odds too.

    So you're actually quite handy? I didn't realise that. What's your name?
    I'm decent.
    I rank as a good amateur, but it's the pros that interest me.
    I love the pro game and thats what I apsire to!

    You can check my name on the article on the front page.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Just looking at the natural ability thing!!!!

    Andy Lee; 3 National Titles
    John Duddy; 1 National Title
    Paul McCloskey; 3 National TITLES
    Barry McGuigan; 2 or 3 National Titles

    Hitman Donny; 3 National Titles at 20.

    I like my odds.
    Just joking son.

    If that's the case I like your odds too.

    So you're actually quite handy? I didn't realise that. What's your name?
    I'm decent.
    I rank as a good amateur, but it's the pros that interest me.
    I love the pro game and thats what I apsire to!

    You can check my name on the article on the front page.

    Spend as much time in the amateurs as possible without being kicked out due to olld age...I have faith in you Donny once you turn pro...Even though I never seen you fight...You seem determined...and a top notch guy
    Just try to get at least 100 amateur bouts under you before even debating the pro ranks.....Even more if possible no matter how well you do...I want to write about you in the future as a champion and not a could have been
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Thanks very much Daxx....
    I'm attempting that as we speak really.
    I think I'm spending a year and a half more in the ams...and with the help of God that should mean 20-30 more fights, so I'll hopefully gain plenty.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Just joking son.

    If that's the case I like your odds too.

    So you're actually quite handy? I didn't realise that. What's your name?
    I'm decent.
    I rank as a good amateur, but it's the pros that interest me.
    I love the pro game and thats what I apsire to!

    You can check my name on the article on the front page.

    Spend as much time in the amateurs as possible without being kicked out due to olld age...I have faith in you Donny once you turn pro...Even though I never seen you fight...You seem determined...and a top notch guy
    Just try to get at least 100 amateur bouts under you before even debating the pro ranks.....Even more if possible no matter how well you do...I want to write about you in the future as a champion and not a could have been
    I honestly reckon Donny will be huge in the pro ranks. He's a good looking Irish boy and he only needs to be half way decent for him to establish a huge following.

    You just need to think up a catchphrase Donny. Dunne has his 'hunkey dorey!' you need something similar and then you're in.

    Win your first 5 pro fights and by 2010 you'll be selling out Madison Square Garden

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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Without journeymen you wouldn't get "star" fighters.

    Everyone has to learn.

    And it doesn't matter how hard you try or how hard you believe YOU WILL achieve something - if you're shit you're shit. And there's fuck all you can do about it.
    Dunno man.
    If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also.


    The second part you got right.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    "If you travel to a top class gym, get the trainers to help you, live the life and show interest, I think you can transform yourself.

    Look at Mickey Rourke...


    Of course selective match making, good management and promotion help also."


    yes that will go a long way but you can't tell me that with all of the above you could turn Nicky Cook in to a Barrera/Morales/Marquez/Pacquiao? I really don't see that happening.

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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    I do, it's how they're raised in the sport in my opinion.
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    Default Re: Pete Buckley to retire - hats off to an unsung ring hero

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    I do, it's how they're raised in the sport in my opinion.
    Nice little nature/nurture debate going on here.

    My own opinion is that nature accounts for maybe 25% of a boxers talent, nurture another 25% but that at least 50% comes from the scientifically unmeasurable quality known as individual human will.

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