Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Quote Originally Posted by lance Uppercut View Post
John has the one robbery victory over JMM, and besides that he really doesn't have any significant victory's under his belt.

He just defends his alphabet title in Indonesia against sub-par competition, and may end up retiring undefeated as it looks like he many never leave the safety of his home court.
But as Oumafan says whether the Ring felt it was a robbbery or not is irrelevent surely. He won a UD, that was the result and he should be rated accordingly?

If they based on their own opinion of dodgy decisions then Casamayor should have dropped down after his 'win' over Santa Cruz. Maybe he was and I missed that?
I think you are confused. Casamayor was the champ and he won a robbery against Santa Cruz. Thus he remains the champ. But The John vs JMM was not for the World Title, it was only for a paper title which The Ring does not recognize. Had It been for The Ring Title, then yes, John would still be champ.