JMM the best LEGS in the SPORT!

[DAVIDTUA]

Izzy also recovers quickly from knockdowns.

u mean israel vasquez? yeah hes the man he beat my boy Raf Marquez fair and square twice!

or do you mean Izzy from Guns N Roses? LOL

[DAVIDTUA]

the more i rewatch the fight i say JMM landed some sick body shots on Pac and that really made the difference. it was as if he slowed Pac down by all the body shots IMO

[Gandalf]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

[DAVIDTUA]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

interesting u mention james toney im also a big fan of his as well. i believe his only knockdowns were more so due to him being unbalanced.

what do u make of him as of right now tho? is he done? or could he still make noise in the HW division?

[Gandalf]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

interesting u mention james toney im also a big fan of his as well. i believe his only knockdowns were more so due to him being unbalanced.

what do u make of him as of right now tho? is he done? or could he still make noise in the HW division?

Actually, I was thinking about Toney just this afternoon. I know a few weeks back he was talking about stirring up the division again but since then Ive heard nothing. Of course, I love Toney...apart from Calzaghe and Barrera he is probably my favourite fighter of recent times. I find it hard to imagine him doing that much now. Its almost like he got old against Peter the second time out and apparently he didnt look good against Batchelder.

Its a shame really. Toney should have got the nod against Peter the first time out, picked up a belt and then retired but it hasnt gone like that and that has probably affected Toney.

I wish him all the best if he comes back, but it will be so hard now he is close to 40 and hasnt been in good shape for a very long time.

[DAVIDTUA]

hmmm perhaps a rematch with jirov may rekindle something?

[Gandalf]

hmmm perhaps a rematch with jirov may rekindle something?

Yeah, Its not possible to judge what he has left without seeing him fight. I would like to see him fight again and if looks bad then just give it up. But if he can look okay, well who knows really...

[Julius Rain]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

yea i agree about james toney, but weird though how sam peter knocked him down with a jab wtf

[Gandalf]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

yea i agree about james toney, but weird though how sam peter knocked him down with a jab wtf

That was a terrible knockdown on Toney's part. Completely off balance and it was that more than anything else that put him down. The second Peter fight is hard for me to watch actually. Toney got hit more than usual in that one. Ouch!!

[DAVIDTUA]

I agree completely with that. Marquez really showed a lot of discipline with his body work. Kept digging to the ribs consistently.

Marquez does have a mighty fine pair of legs and his recovery skills are great. James Toney doesnt have as fine a pair of legs as Marquez but he has the most incredible chin that I can think of in modern boxing. Tough as granite.

yea i agree about james toney, but weird though how sam peter knocked him down with a jab wtf

That was a terrible knockdown on Toney's part. Completely off balance and it was that more than anything else that put him down. The second Peter fight is hard for me to watch actually. Toney got hit more than usual in that one. Ouch!!

yes youre right toney didnt do his lean back to the side angle defense to avoid peters punches at all that night??