I think you overlooked some of my post. Anyway, I don't think it was a bad stoppage, but it was a little early. Kats legs were gone, but he was alert. He was still trying to fight and his body just wasn't responding. If he calmed down and went into survival mode he may have recovered. Reality is he should have taken a knee and used 8 seconds to compose himself. Then held for a few seconds.
Pavlik's legs were that shot in the first Taylor fight. Gatti has done it numerous times. I don't think you stop it right away when the legs are wobbly, cause they can comeback real fast. Pavlik took several big shots after he got up, the ref let it go a little longer and he recovered.
I don't think they should let it go on and a fighter gets a horrible beating, actually most of the time the aggressive fighter gets excited and starts missing wild shots anyway. The terms for a stoppage should be if the fighter isn't fighting back or intelligently defending himself. Kats was still doing both and the ref could have given him a little more time.
Again, not a bad stoppage but a little early. I didn't start a thread about how it was a terrible stoppage, just commenting on the fight and I think it went early.
I'm not disagreeing with the stoppage, but if a fight was stopped every time a fighters legs appeared gone JMM would have lost vs. Pac 1, Pavlik may have been stopped vs. Taylor 1 and Israel Vasquez vs. Rafael Marquez would have been over in about 3 rds.!
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I expected Casamayor to outbox Katsidis and win a convincing UD. That being said, I'm more impressed with him winning this way that if he won a lopsided decision. He showed a champion's heart, I thought for sure he was done when Katsidis knocked him through the ropes. Great fight, good showing by both guys.
If anything the ref let it go on too long. Katsidis had 0 legs after the first knock down. You could see the ref staring at him and Kat looked like he would fall over on his face, but because it had been such a great fight the ref was apprehensive about stopping it when Kat still had something left.
Can't believe people are arguing the stoppage. If anything he shoudln't have let it go on after the first knockdown, Katsidis had no idea where he was.
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Personally I think if a fighter is alert he's aware that it's close to getting stopped. I don't think Kats didn't complain because he was taking too much punishment and was happy it was stopped. I think he was alert enough to know he's close to having it stopped and is disappointed but knew it was probably gonna happen. Kind of how Hatton was. He knew he was hurt, didn't complain but was extremely disappointed. I think Kats was a little less hurt than Hatton, but his body wouldn't do what he was trying to do.
I also think a lack of complaining shows maturity and sportsmanship more than the amount of punishment. Zab's antics after being ko'd by Kostya weren't because he could have taken alot more punishment, it's because he was and is immature.
A situation like that shows the makeup of a man. You can't train for getting buzzed like that, you revert to your base behavior. You could tell a fighter to take a knee but they are going off instinct, some keep punching, some cover, some turn to walk away, no telling how someone will respond till it happens. One of the reasons I love boxing!!!
I know I'm super-late but.....
WHAT A FRIGGING GOOD FIGHT!!!!!
Honestly, I was one of those doubters that wasn't giving Casamayor much of a chance, given his last performance. And I had seen Katsidis once before and was impressed as hell. But all credit in the world to Casamayor. He weathered the storm in the middle rounds (that knockdown in the 6th from the uppercut to the body was awesome!!)... and adjusted like the pro he is. And that crunching left that KO'ed Kats... geeeez! I felt bad for Katsidis. He gave 200% out there. Someone just needs to teach him to fight for round survival when he gets clocked like that.
FOTY candidate, as far as I'm concerned.
You have to give tons of credit to a guy who gets punched out of the ring and comes back later to stop his opponent. The stoppage was on point. Casamayor had plenty in the tank to finish the job. Katsidis will be back. He's young.
The fight shouldn't have been stopped IMO.![]()
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