Kessler-Miranda Will Not Happen

[JT Rock]

This is good news, I don't think Miranda's career could handle another bad loss.

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[Majesty]

This is good news, I don't think Miranda's career could handle another bad loss.

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Majesty should lay off the weed, anymore might killl remaining brain cells

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

[JT Rock]

This is good news, I don't think Miranda's career could handle another bad loss.

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Majesty should lay off the weed, anymore might killl remaining brain cells

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

[Majesty]

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Majesty should lay off the weed, anymore might killl remaining brain cells

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

[JT Rock]

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

in case you been hibernating for the winter, Mundine is busy fighting Sam Soliman for the 3rd time even though he beat him 2x already

[Majesty]

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

in case you been hibernating for the winter, Mundine is busy fighting Sam Soliman for the 3rd time even though he beat him 2x already

Only because no one else is fighting him. Miranda had ample time to ask for a fight with him before that fight was even made

[JT Rock]

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

in case you been hibernating for the winter, Mundine is busy fighting Sam Soliman for the 3rd time even though he beat him 2x already

Only because no one else is fighting him. Miranda had ample time to ask for a fight with him before that fight was even made

I think you'll agree its devils advocate at this juncture.. I mean if I was Miranda and I could fight Mundane or Kessler I would rather fight Kessler because of the 3 factors I discussed earlier.

[CFH]

The management of Mikkel Kessler is becoming very reminicent of the management of Joe Calzaghe.
Maybe they're holding out and trying get a fight with Vera, Codrington, or Bika
I don't think that a fight even with a belt-holder like Bute would drum up as much interest (and thus money) as a fight with Miranda, especially considering that highlight reel KO Miranda put on Banks.
For the record I think Kessler would have handled Miranda fairly easily, certainly more easily than Pavlik did.

[amat]

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

This makes no sense. Why would Miranda be criticized for rather fighting Kessler who is a harder fight for him then either of those two? How does that make sense? He's calling out the better fighter, he's not ducking the lesser one. Besides, Mundine doesn't fight out of his own back yard and Pascal isn't taking any big fights right now. Pascal's team wouldn't return any calls from the Andre Ward camp and if I'm not mistaken, Miranda has mentioned Pascal more then a few times.

Besides, if you read the article, the claim that they are fighting for a title elsewhere sounds like formulated BS.

[CFH]

Miranda has two fights at super middleweight and his last fight was against Banks and him knocking out banks translates to him beating Kessler who just went toe to toe with Calzaghe and beat Anthony Mundine a name that Miranda won't even mention about fighting and you think Im killing my brain cells? I think you got it reversed.

And I don't smoke weed im straight edge.

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

Kessler is much more well known than Mundine, thus there is more money and exposure in a fight with him. Like JTRock said, Mundine is fighting Soliman anyways, and Miranda was probably trying to get a fight with Kessler done when Mundine was trying to choose an opponent. A guy who got KO'd by Sven fucking Ottke is not going to want to fight a punishing hitter like Miranda anyways. Miranda is better known than Mundine or Bute, so for Kessler it would make sense from a monetary perspective, as well drum up more publicity for both fighters if they fought eachother. If Miranda is just a name at SMW, who in that division has a bigger name, so to speak? Not Mundine, not Bute. Maybe someone like Bika, but only because of the Contender, and even then I doubt he is more popular the Miranda.

In regards to Pascal, he has become incredibly quiet ever since he watched Miranda destroy Banks from about 10 feet away, Miranda can't force him to fight. Before the Banks KO, Pascal was calling out Miranda and talking shit about him in every medium possible, now he doesn't say a word.

Also, Arther Abraham, for all his faults, was also a very dangerous opponent for Miranda.

[Majesty]

gotta be a reason why Kessler got a case of limber tail, Miranda is the best available fight that brings the most money and recognition, looks like a trifecta to me those three things combined are a fighters dream is it not?

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

Kessler is much more well known than Mundine, thus there is more money and exposure in a fight with him. Like JTRock said, Mundine is fighting Soliman anyways, and Miranda was probably trying to get a fight with Kessler done when Mundine was trying to choose an opponent. A guy who got KO'd by Sven fucking Ottke is not going to want to fight a punishing hitter like Miranda anyways. Miranda is better known than Mundine or Bute, so for Kessler it would make sense from a monetary perspective, as well drum up more publicity for both fighters if they fought eachother. If Miranda is just a name at SMW, who in that division has a bigger name, so to speak? Not Mundine, not Bute. Maybe someone like Bika, but only because of the Contender, and even then I doubt he is more popular the Miranda.

In regards to Pascal, he has become incredibly quiet ever since he watched Miranda destroy Banks from about 10 feet away, Miranda can't force him to fight. Before the Banks KO, Pascal was calling out Miranda and talking shit about him in every medium possible, now he doesn't say a word.

Also, Arther Abraham, for all his faults, was also a very dangerous opponent for Miranda.

That Ottke fight is sooooooo far back that it shouldn't even be discussed anymore as Mundine has improved leaps and bounds since then.

One other thing Mundine has is a killer right hand, which Miranda seems to be open for at most times.

And Im not saying Miranda won't get credit for fighting Kessler, I'm saying that Kessler won't get any credit for beating Miranda.

Tell me what in Miranda's resume against people like Kessler has he succeeded? Abraham defeated him and Pavlik knocked him out. Both of those fighters were people who could fight at a distance better then he could. Kessler is the best of those three at fighting at a distance and is a good boxer he only got beaten by Calzaghe who fights better at distances then he does. Miranda isnt even in that league. Let him beat someone of note at super middle before he fights Kessler.

Let him fight the Adrande then if he is desperate for a fight.


If a fight ever comes off between Miranda and Kessler once Kessler beats him badly I'll come back here and tell you I told you so.

People overrate punchers beyond no end and its like you forget everything Kessler did before beating Calzaghe.

When you fans say that he should go for the biggest name to start off it sounds like you're hoping he lands one big shot and gains instant fame as oppose to fighting the people I mention because you're afraid he'll get beaten.

[CFH]

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

Kessler is much more well known than Mundine, thus there is more money and exposure in a fight with him. Like JTRock said, Mundine is fighting Soliman anyways, and Miranda was probably trying to get a fight with Kessler done when Mundine was trying to choose an opponent. A guy who got KO'd by Sven fucking Ottke is not going to want to fight a punishing hitter like Miranda anyways. Miranda is better known than Mundine or Bute, so for Kessler it would make sense from a monetary perspective, as well drum up more publicity for both fighters if they fought eachother. If Miranda is just a name at SMW, who in that division has a bigger name, so to speak? Not Mundine, not Bute. Maybe someone like Bika, but only because of the Contender, and even then I doubt he is more popular the Miranda.

In regards to Pascal, he has become incredibly quiet ever since he watched Miranda destroy Banks from about 10 feet away, Miranda can't force him to fight. Before the Banks KO, Pascal was calling out Miranda and talking shit about him in every medium possible, now he doesn't say a word.

Also, Arther Abraham, for all his faults, was also a very dangerous opponent for Miranda.

That Ottke fight is sooooooo far back that it shouldn't even be discussed anymore as Mundine has improved leaps and bounds since then.

One other thing Mundine has is a killer right hand, which Miranda seems to be open for at most times.

And Im not saying Miranda won't get credit for fighting Kessler, I'm saying that Kessler won't get any credit for beating Miranda.

Tell me what in Miranda's resume against people like Kessler has he succeeded? Abraham defeated him and Pavlik knocked him out. Both of those fighters were people who could fight at a distance better then he could. Kessler is the best of those three at fighting at a distance and is a good boxer he only got beaten by Calzaghe who fights better at distances then he does. Miranda isnt even in that league. Let him beat someone of note at super middle before he fights Kessler.

Let him fight the Adrande then if he is desperate for a fight.

Because the Ottke fight happened a while back it is no longer relevant? That's a load of bullshit, Mundine got knocked COLD by relatively light-punching Ottke, that will always relevent in discussions about Mundine. It is especially relevent when discussing a potential fight between Mundine and a fighter who possess a great deal of power. When exactly does a fight become irrelevent? After 5 years? 10?

Kessler also has a killer right hand, a comprable or better one than Mundine IMO.

Kessler would get credit for beating Miranda, he's a very popular and somewhat feared fighter. He'd get more credit for beating him than he would for beating Mundine again. Kessler also got all the credit he needed after giving Calzaghe a tough fight, what he needs to do is get back in the ring, and the public eye, against a well-known but beatable opponent. IE Miranda.

I assume that by Andrande you mean Andrade, who just fought, why should Miranda have to wait the 3 -4 months, minimum, until Librado is ready to fight again?

Miranda gave a great showing against Abraham despite circumstances surrounding and during the fight that would have been laughable had they not been so pathetic. Most people who saw that fight feel that is was gift-wrapped and handed to Abraham, so don't just say Abraham beat Miranda off-hand like that was the only factor in the situation. Also, the Pavlik - Miranda fight was one of the most exciting fights I have ever seen, and despite being overpowered, Miranda gave a decent account of himself. I've already said I feel that Miranda would be fairly easy fight for Kessler, I'm certainly not saying I think Edison could beat him, so I don't know where you're getting that bullshit response from. Who has Mundine fought at SWM and beat that is any more impressive than Miranda's resume? Antowon Echols? Soliman? Green? A bunch of other mid-level journeymen that no one has heard of? Give me a break.

[CFH]

It means nothing. If Kessler won all that I'm saying right now will be said by boxing people. "Well Miranda only had two fights at super middleweight and never really fought anyone truly dangerous since Pavlik."

I'll put it to you this way, Kessler beating Miranda is nothing. Miranda is just a name at super middleweight who hasn't proven anything there yet except that he hits hard, which was already known.

Why doesnt Miranda fight Pascal or fight Mundine? Why is nobody calling out Anthony Mundine's name? If Miranda wants a title or some recognition why doesn't he call out Anthony Mundine's name?

Kessler is much more well known than Mundine, thus there is more money and exposure in a fight with him. Like JTRock said, Mundine is fighting Soliman anyways, and Miranda was probably trying to get a fight with Kessler done when Mundine was trying to choose an opponent. A guy who got KO'd by Sven fucking Ottke is not going to want to fight a punishing hitter like Miranda anyways. Miranda is better known than Mundine or Bute, so for Kessler it would make sense from a monetary perspective, as well drum up more publicity for both fighters if they fought eachother. If Miranda is just a name at SMW, who in that division has a bigger name, so to speak? Not Mundine, not Bute. Maybe someone like Bika, but only because of the Contender, and even then I doubt he is more popular the Miranda.

In regards to Pascal, he has become incredibly quiet ever since he watched Miranda destroy Banks from about 10 feet away, Miranda can't force him to fight. Before the Banks KO, Pascal was calling out Miranda and talking shit about him in every medium possible, now he doesn't say a word.

Also, Arther Abraham, for all his faults, was also a very dangerous opponent for Miranda.

If a fight ever comes off between Miranda and Kessler once Kessler beats him badly I'll come back here and tell you I told you so.

People overrate punchers beyond no end and its like you forget everything Kessler did before beating Calzaghe.

When you fans say that he should go for the biggest name to start off it sounds like you're hoping he lands one big shot and gains instant fame as oppose to fighting the people I mention because you're afraid he'll get beaten.

I want to address the edit you threw into your post after I already responded.

I have repeatedly stated throughout this thread and others that I think Kessler would handle Miranda fairly easily, more easily than Pavlik in fact. So I don't know what your juvinile "I'll come back and say I told you so" comment is referring to. I also gave, and give, Kessler a ton of credit for his fight with Calzaghe, I'm a Kessler fan and I was cheering for him against JC (though I became a fan of Calzaghe because of that fight). So what, exactly, did I forget about that fight?

When did I say anything that could constitute overrating a puncher? The only thing I can think of is when I said it looks like Pascal is afraid of Miranda. Well, it looks like, following the brutal KO of Banks, Pascal became very quiet in regards to Miranda, a subject he was quite vocal about leading up to their ESPN card, which was supposed to set-up a fight between them. Also, Winky Wright is one of my favorite fighters, so I'm hardly one of those boxing fans who only likes big punchers.

Why would I be "afraid [Miranda] will get beaten"? I'm a boxing fan, I like to watch good fights, and in boxing there is almost always a loser.

I thought someone who worked in a library would be able to read a little better.