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But just because you have seen boxers survive other similar circumstances doesn't mean every boxer should be allowed to carry on and take a horrible beating. Because if we went by that logic then i guarantee you would be seeing a lot of boxers get permanent injuries, Katsidis was caught flush on the chin and he got caught coming in which was even worse, Katsidis got up and had no legs in fact i wouldn't of been disappointed if the ref stopped it right there and then. Katsidis or his team didn't complain or say it was stopped too early so why are you saying that ?? wouldn't Katsidis know better than any of us here ?? he knew how he felt and if he felt it was stopped too early he would of said end of, it was a good stoppage no doubt in my mind.

I think you overlooked some of my post. Anyway, I don't think it was a bad stoppage, but it was a little early. Kats legs were gone, but he was alert. He was still trying to fight and his body just wasn't responding. If he calmed down and went into survival mode he may have recovered. Reality is he should have taken a knee and used 8 seconds to compose himself. Then held for a few seconds.

Pavlik's legs were that shot in the first Taylor fight. Gatti has done it numerous times. I don't think you stop it right away when the legs are wobbly, cause they can comeback real fast. Pavlik took several big shots after he got up, the ref let it go a little longer and he recovered.

I don't think they should let it go on and a fighter gets a horrible beating, actually most of the time the aggressive fighter gets excited and starts missing wild shots anyway. The terms for a stoppage should be if the fighter isn't fighting back or intelligently defending himself. Kats was still doing both and the ref could have given him a little more time.

Again, not a bad stoppage but a little early. I didn't start a thread about how it was a terrible stoppage, just commenting on the fight and I think it went early.
I just think personally if a fighter doesn't complain about the stoppage then it was the right stoppage end of. Katsidis knows better than any of us he was the one taking the punishment.

Personally I think if a fighter is alert he's aware that it's close to getting stopped. I don't think Kats didn't complain because he was taking too much punishment and was happy it was stopped. I think he was alert enough to know he's close to having it stopped and is disappointed but knew it was probably gonna happen. Kind of how Hatton was. He knew he was hurt, didn't complain but was extremely disappointed. I think Kats was a little less hurt than Hatton, but his body wouldn't do what he was trying to do.

I also think a lack of complaining shows maturity and sportsmanship more than the amount of punishment. Zab's antics after being ko'd by Kostya weren't because he could have taken alot more punishment, it's because he was and is immature.

A situation like that shows the makeup of a man. You can't train for getting buzzed like that, you revert to your base behavior. You could tell a fighter to take a knee but they are going off instinct, some keep punching, some cover, some turn to walk away, no telling how someone will respond till it happens. One of the reasons I love boxing!!!