Kessler-Miranda Will Not Happen

[Majesty]

Well Dude since you want me to make a shoot directly towards you I'll do so

Because the Ottke fight happened a while back it is no longer relevant? That's a load of bullshit, Mundine got knocked COLD by relatively light-punching Ottke, that will always relevent in discussions about Mundine. It is especially relevent when discussing a potential fight between Mundine and a fighter who possess a great deal of power. When exactly does a fight become irrelevent? After 5 years? 10?

Alright Mundine has fought the harder then Ottke punching Danny Green and Antawn Echols AND Kessler and his chin stood up just fine and he wasn't ever wobbled, so what does getting knocked out by Ottke when he had exhausted himself and was relatively new to the sport.

If it meant anything wouldnt he have been knocked out by Green or Echols or KESSLER? Yeah thats what I thought, lets go on to your next statement.

Kessler also has a killer right hand, a comprable or better one than Mundine IMO.

Kessler would get credit for beating Miranda, he's a very popular and somewhat feared fighter. He'd get more credit for beating him than he would for beating Mundine again. Kessler also got all the credit he needed after giving Calzaghe a tough fight, what he needs to do is get back in the ring, and the public eye, against a well-known but beatable opponent. IE Miranda.

Its your opinion that Kessler has a harder right hand. I think Mundine has a better one.

Kessler wouldn't get credit for beating Miranda. And I am asking why doesnt MIRANDA fight Mundine, not why should Kessler fight him again.

So basically you're saying that Kessler should go the easy route and face Miranda because Miranda has a name and is somewhat feared? Look Kessler won't get credit for beating Miranda, Miranda is flawed to the point that Kessler would pick him apart and beat him. And when he does you know exactly what the boxing people will be saying exactly what I'm saying now.

I assume that by Andrande you mean Andrade, who just fought, why should Miranda have to wait the 3 -4 months, minimum, until Librado is ready to fight again?

Its a better fight for him then Kessler and puts him more into the super middleweight picture and gives him a good name. I say Adrande because I think that Miranda could beat him and he fights more of the style that Miranda could fight better against as opposed to throwing him in with Kessler and getting him systematically picked apart. Who says he has to wait? Fight another fight on ESPN then fight Adrande on HBO, that would set up a fight with him and Kessler which would mean more then it would now. And if you disagree with that I suggest you give me a better plan.

Miranda gave a great showing against Abraham despite circumstances surrounding and during the fight that would have been laughable had they not been so pathetic. Most people who saw that fight feel that is was gift-wrapped and handed to Abraham, so don't just say Abraham beat Miranda off-hand like that was the only factor in the situation. Also, the Pavlik - Miranda fight was one of the most exciting fights I have ever seen, and despite being overpowered, Miranda gave a decent account of himself.

Fact is he lost both times, no matter how you slice it he lost one, granted the first was controversial, But there's no way you can erase getting knocked out like he did against Pavlik and he hasn't fought a puncher since then. And before you try to say that "then why can you erase Mundines loss to Ottke" easily, Mundine went on to face punchers including Kessler with little problem when it came to his chin and won a world title twice while he was at it, if he was the same Mundine that got stopped by Ottke do you think he'd have been as successful after? There is no proof that Miranda isn't the same Miranda that lost to Pavlik. I haven't seen any improvement in his style since then, he fights the same, so what he KO'd banks, he has always been a KO puncher, how does that say how he would do against Kessler? Please tell me.

I've already said I feel that Miranda would be fairly easy fight for Kessler, I'm certainly not saying I think Edison could beat him,

Like I said before dude it wasn't a direct response to you, however THIS is, so you can respond accordingly.

so I don't know where you're getting that bullshit response from. Who has Mundine fought at SWM and beat that is any more impressive than Miranda's resume? Antowon Echols? Soliman? Green? A bunch of other mid-level journeymen that no one has heard of? Give me a break.

Who heard of Banks before the contender?

Green, Echols, Soliman, Green are ALL better then anyone Miranda has beaten ESPECIALLY at Super Middleweight. Some for world titles was it not? Name me one champ Miranda has beaten and I'll shut up. Until then, You're just blowing smoke further into a hype train I won't believe.

And before you say "Its not who he beat(Banks) its how he beat him..." Then put it like this, Sam soliman gave Winky Wright a VERY tough fight and had never been stopped. Mundine dominated him and knocked him out. So I'd put Mundine stopping Soliman more impressive then Miranda stopping Banks. Seriously when you mention Mundine's opponents as glorified journeyman yet are trying to place him below Miranda I had to hold back a laugh