If Calzaghe beats Hopkins will he be higher on the all time p4p rankings?

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If Floyd lost to Cotto it would be a big win for Cotto because Floyd is a proven great at welterwight, the undisputed Ring champion at that weight and also a belt holder at 154.

De La Hoya did as much at 160 as Ricky Hatton has done at 147, i.e win a fight that everybody thought he lost and then get KTFO, i.e in most people's eyes his middleweight record was 0-2

Tito's record above 154 is 3-3. Ok it's unfair to count the Jones fight where he was at a huge weight disadvantage but even so a 3-2 record is hardly world class.

Beside's Tito is Hopkins biggest career win. It's a good win and has significance in a historical sense but I think you are kidding yourself if you think he was a tougher challenge than Kessler at 168.

A far more well known opponent yes, and a higher one on the all time p4p certainly but he's recognised for his brilliance at welterwieght and junior middle not at 160.

If Joe Calzaghe fought Shane Mosely after he's fought Hopkins or Miguel Cotto I certainly wouldn't give him a huge amount of credit for those wins and I'm guessing neither would you.

I'm not knocking Hopkins, I thin he's an all time great, I'm just saying that if he does lose to Calzaghe imo Calzaghe's resume will be better, undefeated, a two weight world champ and wins over prime undefeated opponents in Kessler and Lacy who were actually fighting in their natural weight class.

Wins over Oscar and Tito at middleweight and Winky at 170 whilst still good wins don't mean as much to me as wins over a prime opponent undefeated in that weight class.

I also agree that history will judge Hopkins better, BUT if Joe can beat for exampl Kelly Pavlik or the winner of Woods and Tarver after a Hopkins win imo he will have had a better career than B Hop

- Yeah but what if shane or cotto came up and knocked kessler out first? Then joe beats them. He wouldnt get credit then.

-Prime and undefeated is all good but does it mean much if that undefeated fighter has fought no one.

-I dont know why u bring up lacy in the same conversation as skill cause those 2 words just dont go together.

But like i said earlier i dont have no real problem with joe. I just think the topic of this poll is ridiculous. If u wanna ask would he be higher on the lb4lb right now with a win thats cool. But all-time? He would have to another 3-4 very good fighters after this for me to even consider it.

P.S. someone said something earlier about hopkins skippin over 168. Well personally 168 aint even a real division. Its one of those in-between weights that fighters that r to scared to fight in there real weight class go to. But thats not even the point. He could of fought joe or go up even higher and beat the man that beat him years ago. IT was an easy choice. It had nohing to do with fear.

I just asked the question and gave four possible choices, one of which was 'Hell No!' which you were of course free to choose.

And considering of the 19 people who have so far voted 12 have disagreed with you it's clearly not that absurd a poll to the majority on here.

It's just a discussion thread, I welcome your opinion but you have to respect that not everyone will agree with you.

Oh i have no problem with disagreement. I havent disrespected anyones opinion, Disproved a few thats all. Actually i dont know what the point of your post is. I havent disrespected anyones opinon on his thread nor have I on any other thread. So if you have an opinion on the topic at hand then please share it but if not then keep it moving.