Do you think Sam Peter hits harder than Dempsey, louis, marciano, foreman liston

[El Kabong]

I've just discovered this thread and I'm afraid it's one of those threads If I read I will get upset

Why would you get upset? Everyone knows Sam Peter has power just some people like to exaggerate how good he is at using it....the greatest power punchers of all time found ways to land their punches, and Sam Peter just doesn't do that very well.

I can't see Sam Peter beating anyone the way Marciano beat Walcott, the way Foreman beat Frazier, the way Lewis beat Rahman, or the way Tyson beat Spinks.


I can see how you can compare Peter to Sonny Liston especially when you look at Liston-Patterson I & II .....the only thing is Liston had a great jab that set up his power punches and he was a mean S.O.B and that honestly means a lot.


I still don't see danger when I see Sam Peter fight....when you saw Tyson or Prime Foreman then you'd see a look that would put the fear of God into pretty much anyone....if I see Sam Peter I see someone who doesn't look mean, doesn't act mean, and doesn't really punch mean. Sure Lewis, Marciano, Wlad, and other top punchers don't have that scary side to them but Lewis and Wlad are Boxer/Punchers and Marciano was more of a pressure guy who would take your will away, he could blast you out but ususally he got guys tired from accumulation of punches and then landed one big one at the end. Foreman and Tyson would eat your heart and crap out your soul before the bell rang to start the fight and they punched to punish people for even thinking they were worthy enough to set foot in the same ring as them

And yes Joe Louis was a hell of a puncher, he knew his range better than any fighter I know of and he didn't miss much and even if he did he didn't leave himself off balance

[donnydarkoIRL]

I've just discovered this thread and I'm afraid it's one of those threads If I read I will get upset

Why would you get upset? Everyone knows Sam Peter has power just some people like to exaggerate how good he is at using it....the greatest power punchers of all time found ways to land their punches, and Sam Peter just doesn't do that very well.

I can't see Sam Peter beating anyone the way Marciano beat Walcott, the way Foreman beat Frazier, the way Lewis beat Rahman, or the way Tyson beat Spinks.


I can see how you can compare Peter to Sonny Liston especially when you look at Liston-Patterson I & II .....the only thing is Liston had a great jab that set up his power punches and he was a mean S.O.B and that honestly means a lot.


I still don't see danger when I see Sam Peter fight....when you saw Tyson or Prime Foreman then you'd see a look that would put the fear of God into pretty much anyone....if I see Sam Peter I see someone who doesn't look mean, doesn't act mean, and doesn't really punch mean. Sure Lewis, Marciano, Wlad, and other top punchers don't have that scary side to them but Lewis and Wlad are Boxer/Punchers and Marciano was more of a pressure guy who would take your will away, he could blast you out but ususally he got guys tired from accumulation of punches and then landed one big one at the end. Foreman and Tyson would eat your heart and crap out your soul before the bell rang to start the fight and they punched to punish people for even thinking they were worthy enough to set foot in the same ring as them

And yes Joe Louis was a hell of a puncher, he knew his range better than any fighter I know of and he didn't miss much and even if he did he didn't leave himself off balance

Lyle, I feel Peter is incomparable.



With Marciano, he went in to finish. If the guy was too tough to finish, we'd see Marciano jumping all over him looking for the stoppage for 15 rounds. He never ever backed down.

Liston went in to finish. He jabbed set up his big punches and threw with intent. Like marciano, he looked for the stoppage every round and he constantly chased opposition with numerous punches.

Louis. Well Louis was Louis. He got in there. Threw percise punches which were all aimed to neutralise the opponent. To beat him you had to nail him. Another man who did not surrender.

Dempsey was a wild man. A small heavy even in those days, he was a ferociously aggresive fighter, magnificently fit considering his era's lack of training and technique. A fighter who threw his soul into his fights.

Peter is a fighter who enters the ring to attempt to blast an opponent out. It doesn't always happen and we end up seeing a boring UD.
I don't want to disrespect Peter but it's the truth. His power carried him upward through the ranks, but dwindles at the top level. He cannot compensate with any speed, skill or athleticism. He will never be a great.


I know the thread was a question on power alone and I strayed from those issues, but if boxing was decided on power alone Earnie Shavers may have been the GOAT.