Us Dollar Worth Less Then Swiss Franc

[El Kabong]

Our debt runs their economies...and America won't be down for long there is no doubt it's an election year and of course everyone gets all crazy it'll settle down once someone gets in office and the relaxation begins and people start saying "Hey we're going to be ok" and the market responds.....or we could have another Jimmy Carter....but the economy won't stay bad forever infact NOW is the time to start pouring everything you have into the market....well maybe in a couple months but still it's BUYING time

[Kirkland Laing]

Our debt runs their economies...and America won't be down for long there is no doubt it's an election year and of course everyone gets all crazy it'll settle down once someone gets in office and the relaxation begins and people start saying "Hey we're going to be ok" and the market responds.....or we could have another Jimmy Carter....but the economy won't stay bad forever infact NOW is the time to start pouring everything you have into the market....well maybe in a couple months but still it's BUYING time

Our debt doesn't run their economies. The problems in the economy have nothing to do with election years. I'm not so sure about your financial advice.

[El Kabong]

Fine....let me sink my government check into the stock market and you can just sit and worry.



Let me know how that worrying goes for you

[Kirkland Laing]

Fine....let me sink my government check into the stock market and you can just sit and worry.



Let me know how that worrying goes for you

I'm not the one that needs to worry.

[El Kabong]

Well how did things work out after Hoover America was still America.

How did things work out after Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, and Nixon in Vietnam and all the crap they put the country through America was still America.

How did things work out after Carter fucked everything up America was still America.

How did things work out after Black Monday America survived




My point is America is going to be just fine no matter who gets elected and no matter what they do. Sure higher taxes at this point will definently increase unemployment but that certainly doesn't affect my position with my company at this juncture. Sure pulling out of Iraq now would cause further instability in the future and place us more at odds with Iran because obviously if Iraq is unstable then it's neighbor will no doubt want to fix any issues the country has and in doing so create a state run by Iran which would no doubt oppose America even more than most in the area, but war between the US and Iran would always remain a last resort.


America will be fine, I would just rather unemployment stay low and us not be pushed into a bigger war by further fucking up the one we're already in. Is that ok? Am I wrong in thinking that way? ....of course you will think so, if only to continue this arguement

[Kirkland Laing]

Well how did things work out after Hoover America was still America.

How did things work out after Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, and Nixon in Vietnam and all the crap they put the country through America was still America.

How did things work out after Carter fucked everything up America was still America.

How did things work out after Black Monday America survived




My point is America is going to be just fine no matter who gets elected and no matter what they do. Sure higher taxes at this point will definently increase unemployment but that certainly doesn't affect my position with my company at this juncture. Sure pulling out of Iraq now would cause further instability in the future and place us more at odds with Iran because obviously if Iraq is unstable then it's neighbor will no doubt want to fix any issues the country has and in doing so create a state run by Iran which would no doubt oppose America even more than most in the area, but war between the US and Iran would always remain a last resort.


America will be fine, I would just rather unemployment stay low and us not be pushed into a bigger war by further fucking up the one we're already in. Is that ok? Am I wrong in thinking that way? ....of course you will think so, if only to continue this arguement

Lyle, you can't half go off at a tangent. Economics, Iraq, US foreign policy and geostrategy then back to economics. I've got bugger all to do till 6 am now so I'll play.

Higher taxes doesn't guarantee increased unemployment and can easily reduce employment. The tax rebate you just got from the government is actually them abandoning supply-side policies and going back to Keynesianism, the school of economic theory that agrees with my first sentence.

Iran already run Iraq. The US army is currently fighting and dying to keep two Iranian-backed groups in power, Dawa, which Maliki comes from and something called ISCI. The new democratic leader of Iraq Maliki comes from Dawa, a democratic group with decades of experience in car bombing, aeroplane hijacking and blowing up US embassies. The other group used to be called SCIRI, short for the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.

Let's look at that name again.

The Supreme Council

For the Islamic Revolution

In Iraq.

Set up by the Ayatollah Khomeni in Iran, these guys fought for Iran against Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. These guys were trained and some were members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. That's the guys Bush says are terrorists. There are estimates that there are 30 000 plus of these guys in the Iraqi security forces, still claiming pensions from the Iranian military.

Here are a couple of links just to check this :


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A man sentenced to death in Kuwait for the 1983 bombings of the U.S. and French embassies now sits in Iraq's parliament as a member of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's ruling coalition, according to U.S. military intelligence.
Jamal Jafaar Mohammed's seat in parliament gives him immunity from prosecution. Washington says he supports Shiite insurgents and acts as an Iranian agent in Iraq.






U.S. military: Iraqi lawmaker is U.S. Embassy bomber - CNN.com






Asked more about the Badr Corps, Rumsfeld said there are reports of


numbers in the hundreds operating in Iraq and more on the other side


of the border. He described the corps as "the military wing of the


Supreme Council on Islamic Revolution in Iraq" and said it is


"trained, equipped and directed by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary


Guard." As yet, he said, the corps has not done anything that would be


perceived by the coalition as hostile. But "the entrance into Iraq by


military forces, intelligence personnel or proxies not under the


direct operational control of [U.S. Central Command Commander] General


[Tommy] Franks will be taken as a potential threat to coalition


forces," he said.





Rumsfeld said the coalition would hold the Iranian government


responsible for the corps' actions, and armed Badr corps members found


in Iraq "will have to be treated as combatants."


Rumsfeld Warns Syria, Iranian Badr Corps Not to Interfere in Iraq




These are the guys on our side, in our quest for democracy in Iraq and an ally who will help us defeat Iran.


The guy we don't like, Moqtada Al-Sadr, the most popular man among the Shiites of Iraq, the people we

supposedly invaded to liberate, is our big problem in Iraq because he wants us out. I really like that guy. He's on my screensaver.

It's this photograph.




He's got star quality.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bonus points for naming the guy in the black and gold. A huge 5 rep increase for the first person to name him.