Man made Global Warming

[El Kabong]

Michael Crichton, pronounced /ˈkraɪtən/ [1], (born October 23, 1942) is an American author, film producer, film director and television producer best known for his techno-thriller novels, films and television programs.

Are there any factual flaws in the statement?

[Kirkland Laing]

Michael Crichton, pronounced /ˈkraɪtən/ [1], (born October 23, 1942) is an American author, film producer, film director and television producer best known for his techno-thriller novels, films and television programs.

Are there any factual flaws in the statement?

You tell me.

[Andre]

Fucking word ping pong.. get out of the way...

"Of course not at the moment ; there are variables in there !!!

[El Kabong]

I asked you...so go ahead

[Andre]

Boys this is all about buying time for us here on Earth ..."quality time"
not just about "changes" and if they can or cannot actually occur through us.

Personally I dont care if the balance on Earth becomes unbalanced and forces change.
Or whether we as one try to bend it around to suit us a bit better for all our future comfort.

Things are definatley speeding up on all accounts both natural and forced.
If you fear change and argue for us all remaining the same and fuck the consequencies; guess what : CHANGE is comming anyway.

Both sides are right cant you see that?

[El Kabong]

Andre, man is not meant to control the Earth and man is not meant to decide what is right for the Earth as far as climate goes. Sure we can clean up and recycle and all that stuff but Life on Earth cannot and will not be controlled.....climate changes are coming and they aren't man made they are cyclical and unstoppable.

Man will have to adapt to Earth (no matter what the climate) and not Earth adapt to man....that is how evolution works

[Andre]

Andre, man is not meant to control the Earth and man is not meant to decide what is right for the Earth as far as climate goes. Sure we can clean up and recycle and all that stuff but Life on Earth cannot and will not be controlled.....climate changes are coming and they aren't man made they are cyclical and unstoppable.

Man will have to adapt to Earth (no matter what the climate) and not Earth adapt to man....that is how evolution works

I agree again.

But your first comment on the opening of this thread i dont agree with 100%.

Only 50%.


Truth is if we removed ourselves from here; in the physical mess /mental state/spiritually diminshing/ group that we are, paradise would be alot closer in every realm from the physical ,upwards and all the way back down again.

But if we chose to align ourselves in every way possible we could achieve it faster than if it occured naturally because we have the power of balance and the domination over all our animal relatives at the moment and we decide by our actions which ones become extinct faster than nature alone does for the time being.


Which will change.

[donnydarkoIRL]

The qualifier MAN MADE should really help you figure this out.


Has the Earth's climate ever truly been stable? We've had Ice Ages and oppressive heat and ice ages and oppressive heat etc etc etc...dinosaurs didn't have cars there was an Ice Age after them and then it subsided and why? Why would an Ice Age just stop all of a sudden?


Sure pollution is bad and sure we should look after our Earth


HOWEVER

Orbital forcing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Oh my God!!!! There's a NON-MAN MADE REASON BEHIND THIS AFTER ALL!!!!


All you guys are fucking sheep just being led around by Al Gore who wants to be President of Earth because he feels slighted because he LOST the 2000 Presidential Election....whatver you believe about the votes and Florida the key factor to Al Gore becoming a tree hugging crazy man was that he didn't win the Presidency.


Orbital Forcing.....learn it, live it, love it....I'm going to buy an SUV now and just leave it outside with the engine idling

The climate has changed numerous times and varied between oppresive heat and rstrictive cold yes...

However, the earth's protective membrane has never been damaged by any natural cause.
We have triggered this climate change...In fact I should say alteration as change implies it may not be permanent.

[Kirkland Laing]

I asked you...so go ahead

It's a statement that says no matter how bad things get in the future, somewhere beneath thirty feet of ice covering the earth life will exist in some form indefinitely.

Well personally Lyle I'd like to postpone that thirty feet of ice scenario as long as possible, so that my kids and grandkids, great grandkids etc. get to live on a relatively earth-like earth and not a frozen or scorched wasteland. Something that looks fairly similar to the thing we live on today.

And according to climate scientists -- again Lyle, people who know what they're talking about -- we need to make changes asap so that the earth keeps on looking familiar in the future.

[El Kabong]

#1 You'd be stopping the Earth from doing a natural thing which it has and always will do....so go right ahead and try to stop climate change, it's not going to happen and the arrogance you show by even thinking that we could stop global warming is amazing.


#2 Plenty of scientists disagree with MAN MADE Global Warming/Climate Change. List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's far from a consensus view and it's time everyone realized it

[Kirkland Laing]

#1 You'd be stopping the Earth from doing a natural thing which it has and always will do....so go right ahead and try to stop climate change, it's not going to happen and the arrogance you show by even thinking that we could stop global warming is amazing.


#2 Plenty of scientists disagree with MAN MADE Global Warming/Climate Change. List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's far from a consensus view and it's time everyone realized it

1. Pumping millions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere via industrial processes every day is not "natural."

2. Not one single scientist has produced a peer-reviewed paper of evidence that disputes man-made global warming as against thousands of papers that claim it exists. The people disputing it are pretty much all funded by oil companies too. At the recent UN global warming meeting the hundreds of scientists telling the world's governments to get busy were offered thousands of dollars by oil companies to become public sceptics.

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.
Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Travel expenses and additional payments were also offered.



Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study | Environment | The Guardian

[El Kabong]

1. Volcanoes they are natural are they not?

2. That's an outright lie regarding the peer reviewed papers of evidence


As for the UN they can go fuck themselves all they want to do is hurt the US and countries that actually try and follow procedures to help reduce emissions but when it comes to making China and India follow our lead in this venture, it just hasn't happened and it won't happen.