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    Default Re: The Case For Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Points taken.

    Hopkins just always looks so in control that it's hard to see him not win. I just can't remember the last time he looked in trouble - that's how good he is.
    Ive picked Hopkins to win all of his recent fights. This one is stylistically all wrong for a Hopkins at 43 though. Calzaghes workrate is just so relentless. Hopkins can be outworked as even the limited Taylor showed and that will be the difference. Calzaghe is just too busy. Hopkins will land some peaches but if he doesnt stop Calzaghe I cant see him winning. He just wont land as many as Joe will.
    Thats prety much my take on it,allthough if anybody can come up with a blueprint of how 2 beat Cazaghe its B Hop,Taylor beat Hopkins on his workrate and Joes is higher than Taylors so it sort of makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njackets View Post
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    Points taken.

    Hopkins just always looks so in control that it's hard to see him not win. I just can't remember the last time he looked in trouble - that's how good he is.
    Ive picked Hopkins to win all of his recent fights. This one is stylistically all wrong for a Hopkins at 43 though. Calzaghes workrate is just so relentless. Hopkins can be outworked as even the limited Taylor showed and that will be the difference. Calzaghe is just too busy. Hopkins will land some peaches but if he doesnt stop Calzaghe I cant see him winning. He just wont land as many as Joe will.
    Thats prety much my take on it,allthough if anybody can come up with a blueprint of how 2 beat Cazaghe its B Hop,Taylor beat Hopkins on his workrate and Joes is higher than Taylors so it sort of makes sense.
    I see the Taylor fights as the last time Hopkins wasnt in with a handpicked opponent. A long time ago now. Hopkins had issues winning rounds in the first half of both fights and essentially edged the close rounds in the second half of the fights as Taylor tired. Calzaghe has greater skills than any other fighter Hopkins has faced and Hopkins is beyond his best. Its not looking good for Hopkins. Years ago this was a close fight, now its elementary.

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    Default Re: The Case For Hopkins

    I can't really see Joe stopping B-Hop but I can see a total lopsided decision for Joe.

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    Default Re: The Case For Hopkins

    hopkins is a very good fighter, his right hand is like a rader and he's rough on the inside, bika roughed joe up and got to him ( i re-watched this fight a few weeks back ) joe was spent half way through the 11th round and looked beat up, now hopkins is a much better boxer then bika and much more subtlely dirty...........however bika was 28 in that fight, hopkins is 43, i feel he's goner have a rough night with joes speed and punch output, i hope he wins but it maybe a fight to far

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUCLEAR BULL View Post
    hopkins is a very good fighter, his right hand is like a rader and he's rough on the inside, bika roughed joe up and got to him ( i re-watched this fight a few weeks back ) joe was spent half way through the 11th round and looked beat up, now hopkins is a much better boxer then bika and much more subtlely dirty...........however bika was 28 in that fight, hopkins is 43, i feel he's goner have a rough night with joes speed and punch output, i hope he wins but it maybe a fight to far
    Joe failed to impress against Bika but he still won convincingly. Hopkins has his hands full just getting through this really. He is just too beyond the sphere in terms of age. No one has ever been at their best at 43 and to beat Calzaghe at that stage in the game? Not a chance in hell!!

    Calzaghe always raises his game to a new level for the big fights and this will be his easiest big fight because Hopkins is so inactive and hasn't fought an opponent who wasnt handpicked since Taylor. Taylor was limited and he stretched the young middle aged version of Hopkins twice. Hopkins will get busted up badly with Calzaghe.

    Speed, movement, output. These are the keys to the fight and Calzaghe has all 3 of them all locked up. It wont even be close.

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    ... a pretty decent case can be made for both fighters, which is why i think either way we will get a good fight. I really won't look at either fighter any less win or loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUCLEAR BULL View Post
    hopkins is a very good fighter, his right hand is like a rader and he's rough on the inside, bika roughed joe up and got to him ( i re-watched this fight a few weeks back ) joe was spent half way through the 11th round and looked beat up, now hopkins is a much better boxer then bika and much more subtlely dirty...........however bika was 28 in that fight, hopkins is 43, i feel he's goner have a rough night with joes speed and punch output, i hope he wins but it maybe a fight to far
    While I agree with pretty much everything you wrote (except the part about hoping Hopkins wins), I think the biggest issue with the Bika fight was that JC didn't respect him as a legitimate threat. He allowed himself to be in a position to be roughed up due to a lack of preparation and a lack of respect for, and understanding of, Bika's ability and style.

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