Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

[X]

Yeah - Margarito was mightily impressive, and I got the feeling that Cintron is just made for him. Antonio has one hell of a chin and is a tough tough guy .... someone like Cintron, who is such a big hitter that he relies on it will always come unravelled by Antonio.

The immovable object beat the irresistible force last night.

To beat margarito, you either have to outslick him and win on points or you have to get his respect.

It will be a great fight against Cotto, and I would not discount Margarito breaking Cotto's heart as well?

[El Kabong]

Margarito's punches aren't as sharp as they could be, his chin is great but his defense leaves a lot to be desired, I think Miguel Cotto will not only beat him but STOP him.

KO-ing Gomez is very impressive considering Peter Manfredo a natural middleweight didn't even hurt Gomez.


I say Floyd Mayweather Jr. will wait to see who wins a Cotto-Margarito matchup to make his move....if Cotto wins by KO I figure Floyd will retire or he'd be better off retiring.

[Taeth]

I think people are jumping the gun a little bit. I mean Margarito already beat Cintron, and Cintron has a weaker mind than Judah. I think Margarito definitely has a puncher's/Tua like chin chance against Cotto, but Cotto is so much better technically, he's tough as well, and if Margarito can't do more damage than Mosley or Judah then I can't see Margarito beating him. Cotto is so much faster, he punches so much straighter that I see this being a tough fight, but IMO Cotto is a far better fighter than Margarito, its just he doesn't maybe match up as well to Margarito. That being said I think other guys like Clottey would beat Margarito if he ever got a rematch.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

margarito made cintrone look like a non-puncher the type of guy amir khan fights. you've got to be tough to take that type of guys punches that well. i think a fight with cotto would be interesting, if margaritos in that frame of mind then he could beat cotto, however he seems to sometimes start to late so i feel cotto may get the win

[Deanrw]

I think he beats PDF. He is simply too big, too strong and throws punches from every angle under the sun non stop. He is capable of breaking down any defense out there. PBF would not have the size or strength to ward him off.

Cotto is another question. He does have power and does have the strength to keep Margarito off him. That would be an explosive fight.

I think marg has a better chance than Cotto to beat PBF simply due to his massive size and workrate, although Cotto has shown some great versatility and could find a way to win also.

All Styles baby!!

[Taeth]

I think he beats PDF. He is simply too big, too strong and throws punches from every angle under the sun non stop. He is capable of breaking down any defense out there. PBF would not have the size or strength to ward him off.

Cotto is another question. He does have power and does have the strength to keep Margarito off him. That would be an explosive fight.

I think marg has a better chance than Cotto to beat PBF simply due to his massive size and workrate, although Cotto has shown some great versatility and could find a way to win also.

All Styles baby!!

Margarito is not any stronger than Baldomir or Oscar De La Hoya, and his speed is more like Baldomir's, but he throws even wider punches. People won't be breaking down Mayweather's defense if Oscar can't do it. The only person I see standing a chance of doing it is Cotto because he has such good timing on the inside, and he had really quick, sharp, hooks. Cotto not only outpunched MOsley and Judah, but he was quicker than them as well, not in the handspeed type of way, but he reacted faster, and was much sharper than either of them when he fought.

[LEGION]

I actually give Cotto a much better chance at beating Floyd than Tony. Tony tends to plod forward sometimes, and will take shots to get in. Floyd will hit and run; and even if Tony manages to get inside Floyd, I still see Floyd being able to hang in there and use his speed to land inside; and get out fast. Floyd's defense is still the best in the business.

Cotto seems much improved in his boxing and uses his jab to great efficiency. And his has good timing; though no one is as good as Floyd. I see neither beating Floyd really, but I wouuld have to edge it to Cotto if I had to choose one to dethrone Pretty Boy.

Tony looked good last night on a guy who has a typical bully mentality. Likes to dominate and impose his will with his heavy hands, but can't come close to taking what he dishes out. Like I said yesterday in another thread, Cintron looked ready to flee against Feliciano, a guy who couldn't put a punch combination together to save his life, but who has a great beard. Tony can take a shot AND put punches together, and anyone that has those 2 things can beat a Cintron 8 days a week.

Cotto beat up a guy who really had no business being put in with the lion. Cotto/Margarito fight has to happen to see who should be the guy who gets a crack at Floyd; though Cotto already deserves that shot anyways.

[El Kabong]

Alfonso Gomez had fought at 160 so don't give me that "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" bs!


Sure Floyd is technically skilled and has great handspeed and a different kind of power than Cotto or Toni but I just think he's a fragile fighter and no one has really put him to the test other than an old De la Hoya and hell I think Floyd was lucky to get away with that fight with a 0 in the loss column. Oscar didn't try to punish Floyd...everyone wants to work in around Floyd's defense via the jab and combinations....Miguel will beat up the defense and Floyd will take punishment either on his defense or through his defense.


Cotto is waiting to be an attractive fight for Floyd....and that is smart because when Floyd wants to fight HIM and not the other way around Cotto then holds all the cards and can affect the amount of money he's going to get AND more importantly the size of the ring.

[Deanrw]

Alfonso Gomez had fought at 160 so don't give me that "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" bs!


Sure Floyd is technically skilled and has great handspeed and a different kind of power than Cotto or Toni but I just think he's a fragile fighter and no one has really put him to the test other than an old De la Hoya and hell I think Floyd was lucky to get away with that fight with a 0 in the loss column. Oscar didn't try to punish Floyd...everyone wants to work in around Floyd's defense via the jab and combinations....Miguel will beat up the defense and Floyd will take punishment either on his defense or through his defense.


Cotto is waiting to be an attractive fight for Floyd....and that is smart because when Floyd wants to fight HIM and not the other way around Cotto then holds all the cards and can affect the amount of money he's going to get AND more importantly the size of the ring.

Rep for that. I really think both can be too strong for him. I think both would either outpoint Floyd by putting him into a defensive shell and outwork him, or methodically break him down, force him to fight and stop him. Floyd is a great fighter, but these are two incredible strong fighters, in their prime, and on a mission.

I don't think Floyd wants to face guys like that right now. I think his heart is on making some good money before retiring, but no longer in the sport. I doubt we will see Floyd fight either of them.

[OumaFan]

Alfonso Gomez had fought at 160 so don't give me that "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" bs!


Sure Floyd is technically skilled and has great handspeed and a different kind of power than Cotto or Toni but I just think he's a fragile fighter and no one has really put him to the test other than an old De la Hoya and hell I think Floyd was lucky to get away with that fight with a 0 in the loss column. Oscar didn't try to punish Floyd...everyone wants to work in around Floyd's defense via the jab and combinations....Miguel will beat up the defense and Floyd will take punishment either on his defense or through his defense.


Cotto is waiting to be an attractive fight for Floyd....and that is smart because when Floyd wants to fight HIM and not the other way around Cotto then holds all the cards and can affect the amount of money he's going to get AND more importantly the size of the ring.

Maybe "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" is a bit much, maybe, but he had almost no shot to beat him, I don't care what (unnatural) weight he'd fought at. I say almost just cause I guess any boxer has some sort of chance to win any certain fight.

[LEGION]

Alfonso Gomez had fought at 160 so don't give me that "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" bs!


Sure Floyd is technically skilled and has great handspeed and a different kind of power than Cotto or Toni but I just think he's a fragile fighter and no one has really put him to the test other than an old De la Hoya and hell I think Floyd was lucky to get away with that fight with a 0 in the loss column. Oscar didn't try to punish Floyd...everyone wants to work in around Floyd's defense via the jab and combinations....Miguel will beat up the defense and Floyd will take punishment either on his defense or through his defense.


Cotto is waiting to be an attractive fight for Floyd....and that is smart because when Floyd wants to fight HIM and not the other way around Cotto then holds all the cards and can affect the amount of money he's going to get AND more importantly the size of the ring.

I guess it's easy to say, after the fact, that Gomez had no business being in with Cotto{seeing as how it went down}. I just never personally really thought he had a chance in hell to win that fight.

All credit to Gomez for taking the shot given to him, and best wishes to him, but he was so outclassed as to almost be criminal. But I guess those things happen. I think Gomez would have done better to get a couple of other fights with, say, Cintron or Clottey, etc., before trying to get in with Miguel. Kind of like Hatton fighting Collazo, then Urango and Castillo and thinking he could go to war against Floyd?? Kind of putting the horse before the cart. I understand though the financial/notoriety gains from doing those kinds of things, but looked how it ended up working out...pretty bad. I wonder if Gomez wishes now he had maybe climbed the ladder a little more cautiously. All respect to him though.

[Taeth]

Alfonso Gomez had fought at 160 so don't give me that "he had no business being in the ring with Cotto" bs!


Sure Floyd is technically skilled and has great handspeed and a different kind of power than Cotto or Toni but I just think he's a fragile fighter and no one has really put him to the test other than an old De la Hoya and hell I think Floyd was lucky to get away with that fight with a 0 in the loss column. Oscar didn't try to punish Floyd...everyone wants to work in around Floyd's defense via the jab and combinations....Miguel will beat up the defense and Floyd will take punishment either on his defense or through his defense.


Cotto is waiting to be an attractive fight for Floyd....and that is smart because when Floyd wants to fight HIM and not the other way around Cotto then holds all the cards and can affect the amount of money he's going to get AND more importantly the size of the ring.

Your wrong on all accounts. First of all Oscar did try to punish Floyd, he isn't a dirty fighter, but he was trying to get Floyd on the ropes and do everything he could to rough Mayweather up. As for nobody ever really testing Mayweather, have you seen more than like his last 4 fights? Here are the guys who tested him, or tried to

Demarcus Corley
Emmanuel Burton(watch this fight before you even start to talk)
Corrales tried to, but Mayweather movement was too good for him, and could be for COtto as well.
Castillo x 2
Victoriano Sosa
Jesus Chavez
Ricky Hatton(he was trying to rough Mayweather up on the inside, and he wasn't able to do that at all)

All of these guys tried to fight a tough fight with Mayweather and all of them failed. Castillo got away with murder in terms of punching and holding in Mayweather-Castillo I and thats where a lot of his punches in punchstat were given to him, but he still lost that fight by a round, and the second fight by 4 or 5 rounds.

Oscar didn't really Mayweather even close to a lot of these fights that had Mayweather bleeding from the nose, and an eye, and he, FLoyd, never folded once. Also when Mayweather broke his hand against Hernandez he finished the fight even though he severly broke his left hand.

[death]

Margarito vs. Cotto. Got dam I wan't to see this happen! I think Cotto might have it by a hair. Whoever wins is going to look like they still could have lost just by looking at their face is my guess.

[SigmaMu]

Everything about this match intrigues me. I know Cotto can beat Tony but it wont be easy. It will be a war from start to finish and neither fighter is going to go out like a punk bitch. I just know that Cotto has more tools and will use them all to take Tony's belt. This will set up another match against Quintana and Cotto will have three trinkets and then we call out Floyd Bedwetter Jr., in which Floyd will retire and vacate the belt and then JT Rock will run around saying that Cotto never beat any legitimate fighter who had this belt or that belt. Cotto unifies and then later dumps the belts to avoid paying sanctioning fees and holds onto either the WBO or the WBA which he is fond of most since the WBC belt has been tainted by RING and Floyd Bedwetter Jr.

Floyd will retire and will be found taking showers with the big show and Triple H on WWE All of Floyd's fans will abandon boxing to watch Floyd play make believe and then they will tell the world wrestling is real a la Majesty.

[El Kabong]

...wasn't he pondering a move to MMA If he gets a tribal tatoo then we all know what he's going to do