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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Margarito's punches aren't as sharp as they could be, his chin is great but his defense leaves a lot to be desired, I think Miguel Cotto will not only beat him but STOP him.

    KO-ing Gomez is very impressive considering Peter Manfredo a natural middleweight didn't even hurt Gomez.


    I say Floyd Mayweather Jr. will wait to see who wins a Cotto-Margarito matchup to make his move....if Cotto wins by KO I figure Floyd will retire or he'd be better off retiring.
    I don't see that at all. Mayorga who is a bigger version of Margarito was absolutely TKFO by Oscar De La HOya, the first time anybody to my knowledge did that with headshots against Ricardo, but Mayweather wasn't scared at all to face Oscar who is very dangerous puncher. I mean Margarito used to be one of Oscar's sparring partners which Oscar didn't have all that much trouble with. That being said I can't see Cotto ko'ing Margarito... he almost didn't ko Judah, and he couldn't KO Malignaggi(or whatever), Ndou, Mosley, and other guys who are tough like Margarito even though he was landing bombs. However Cotto punches like Foreman in that he doesn't have a whole lot of snap to his punches, but he has more force behind his punches than anyone I see below 160, and that has an effect because it ruins his opponent's equilibrium when they are hit by him.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Cotto was at 140 vs Malinaggi and fought a round then took a round off, he's a lot more comfortable at 147 as you can see. Judah was moving away from Cotto the whole time and Miguel had to stalk him down. N'Dou has never been stopped, and neither has Shane Mosley.


    Margarito COULD stay away however Tony doesn't fight like that he has to brawl and vs Cotto it's suicide, it has been for every guy who has fought Cotto.


    And even when Cotto DOESN'T stop someone he beats the CRAP out of them, breaking bones...look at their faces hell look at Cotto-Branco he stopped him on a punch to the freaking shoulder!!!

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Cotto was at 140 vs Malinaggi and fought a round then took a round off, he's a lot more comfortable at 147 as you can see. Judah was moving away from Cotto the whole time and Miguel had to stalk him down. N'Dou has never been stopped, and neither has Shane Mosley.


    Margarito COULD stay away however Tony doesn't fight like that he has to brawl and vs Cotto it's suicide, it has been for every guy who has fought Cotto.


    And even when Cotto DOESN'T stop someone he beats the CRAP out of them, breaking bones...look at their faces hell look at Cotto-Branco he stopped him on a punch to the freaking shoulder!!!
    Mosley was stopped by Vernon Forest. However NDOU hasn't been stopped, but to my knowledge hasn't foughten any big punchers except Cotto.

    I definitely think Cotto will bust Tony up,but I think Tony will be returning the fire, especially in the form of uppercuts. And Margarito has never been stopped either and his whole career has been at welterweight. I still don't think Paul Williams beating Margarito was a fluke... Paul's footwork early didn't allow Tony to get off to a quick start, and Margarito is so limited athletically I think great athletes like COtto and Mayweather could avoid a lot of his punches, and counter where nobody else could.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Mosley has NEVER been stopped...he's been knocked down but NEVER stopped....you had best check your facts before you post them.


    You don't uppercut a guy who throws hooks like Cotto without leaving yourself wide damn open.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Mosley has NEVER been stopped...he's been knocked down but NEVER stopped....you had best check your facts before you post them.


    You don't uppercut a guy who throws hooks like Cotto without leaving yourself wide damn open.
    I like that Lyle , certainly right man.....


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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Mosley has NEVER been stopped...he's been knocked down but NEVER stopped....you had best check your facts before you post them.


    You don't uppercut a guy who throws hooks like Cotto without leaving yourself wide damn open.
    Judah did and rocked Cotto to his boots.

    The upercut is the best thign to stop a hooker lol... that hook wont land if the upercut gets in first.

    I think toni would have to throw it form range to get away with it tho as cotto's handspeed will outmatch toni's.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Mosley has NEVER been stopped...he's been knocked down but NEVER stopped....you had best check your facts before you post them.


    You don't uppercut a guy who throws hooks like Cotto without leaving yourself wide damn open.
    My bad, I thought the first Forrest-Mosley fight ended in KO, but regardless Margarito hasn't been stoped either.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Yes but Shane is a better technician than Margarito and has some of the fastest hands P4P and he's harder to hit than Margarito.


    Cotto got hit by Judah who has extremely quick hands.


    Margarito shouldn't be compared to either one of those guys

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Speed and footwork can cause problems for Margarito.Look at the first five rounds of Williams fight.Williams Utilized his long hand speed and spun circles around Margarito.But Tonys tenacious pressure with range power can can quickly get him into a guys chest with some great uppercuts and solid body work,though his propensity to take left hooks leaves something to be desired at times I am always weary of relying on a good chin as a part of a guys foundation...more of a fail-safe thing ?Better defense for Margarito than his chin is his undeniable pressure and all angel offense.Cottos jab will be a huge obstacle for Tony and he has shown Improved mobility as of late.Cotto can be stunned but it is from the sharp/quick type of shots but I do think Margarito can keep Cotto on his heels with volume punching and uppercuts.Tony has a tremendous chin but has in the past had his share of getting buzzed moments.When It all comes down, I love this fight and am glad It is coming.I like Margarito to win this one over Cotto,I think uppercuts will be a big factor.Can not wait for this one
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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Mosley has NEVER been stopped...he's been knocked down but NEVER stopped....you had best check your facts before you post them.


    You don't uppercut a guy who throws hooks like Cotto without leaving yourself wide damn open.
    YOur right about the Mosley thing, my bad, but I am getting the feeling you have never boxed before, everything about Cotto's style from where he holds his hands and his head to the hooks that he throws sets him up for uppercuts. Margarito being so much taller has the perfect leverage to get off those powerful uppercuts in close or when Cotto comes in, and an uppercut thrown properly gets there before a hook, and if you throw it properly does more damage because it actually snaps the head more than any other punch which means it rattles the brain more than any other punch, but along the way its good for busting up mouths which Cotto has had problems with, and breaking noses. If Cotto's nose is broken and he's bleeding inside his lip he is in deep shit.

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    Default Re: Antonio Margarito is the real deal and I'm just a hatin fool for not recognizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Cotto was at 140 vs Malinaggi and fought a round then took a round off, he's a lot more comfortable at 147 as you can see. Judah was moving away from Cotto the whole time and Miguel had to stalk him down. N'Dou has never been stopped, and neither has Shane Mosley.


    Margarito COULD stay away however Tony doesn't fight like that he has to brawl and vs Cotto it's suicide, it has been for every guy who has fought Cotto.


    And even when Cotto DOESN'T stop someone he beats the CRAP out of them, breaking bones...look at their faces hell look at Cotto-Branco he stopped him on a punch to the freaking shoulder!!!
    Mosley was stopped by Vernon Forest. However NDOU hasn't been stopped, but to my knowledge hasn't foughten any big punchers except Cotto.

    I definitely think Cotto will bust Tony up,but I think Tony will be returning the fire, especially in the form of uppercuts. And Margarito has never been stopped either and his whole career has been at welterweight. I still don't think Paul Williams beating Margarito was a fluke... Paul's footwork early didn't allow Tony to get off to a quick start, and Margarito is so limited athletically I think great athletes like COtto and Mayweather could avoid a lot of his punches, and counter where nobody else could.
    Mosley was dropped x2 by Forrest but he wasn't stopped he has never ever been stopped.

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