What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.
Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.Originally Posted by JLAQ
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
Hey, Pacquiao won.The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight
Mr. President
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matterHey, Pacquiao won.The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight
Pac:
two wins over mab
two wins over eric
and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!
Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matterHey, Pacquiao won.
Pac:
two wins over mab
two wins over eric
and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!
Mr. President
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT!A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter
Hey, Pacquiao won.
Pac:
two wins over mab
two wins over eric
and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy
those you can't deny
Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT!A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.
thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter
Pac:
two wins over mab
two wins over eric
and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!
mental drifter
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight
Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.
Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.
- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio
- Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight
mental drifter
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Re: JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)
Take you time, ICB, there's no need to hurry. Watch at you convenient time.To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.
Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.
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