JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)

[ICB]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

[:::PSL:::]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

Hey, Pacquiao won.

[Julius Rain]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

Hey, Pacquiao won.

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

[ICB]

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

Hey, Pacquiao won.

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

[Julius Rain]

Hey, Pacquiao won.

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

[ICB]

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

[Julius Rain]

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

[pacfan]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

[ICB]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.

[pacfan]

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.

Take you time, ICB, there's no need to hurry. Watch at you convenient time.