JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)

[ICB]

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

Hey, Pacquiao won.

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

[Julius Rain]

Hey, Pacquiao won.

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

[ICB]

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

[Julius Rain]

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

[ICB]

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights.

[Julius Rain]

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights .

Ice Im talking about in close fights, respecting the record books in close fights. Thats why i said Im fine with the first one being a draw.

Fair enough Ice.

BTW what do you think jmm should do now? IMO since he wants fight not for the money but to prove to the people he really won, then he should definitely rematch chris john and kick his ass while pac is busy with david diaz.

[ICB]

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights .

Ice Im talking about in close fights, respecting the record books in close fights. Thats why i said Im fine with the first one being a draw.

Fair enough Ice.

BTW what do you think jmm should do now? IMO since he wants fight not for the money but to prove to the people he really won, then he should definitely rematch chris john and kick his ass while pac is busy with david diaz.

I think he should keep busy and not just wait for Pacquiao thats worst thing to do IMO. Im not sure about him rematching Chris John because that would mean he would have to move down in weight then if he wants to fight Pacquiao he will have to move up 2 weight classes and thats not good for his body IMO. If Marquez stays at Super Featherweight he should fight Valero, if he can't get that fight then he should take on Guzman. If he moves up to Lightweight then he should take on Nate Campbell.

Its good we can debate in a friendly way again, all that trash talking last time made both of us look bad IMO.