JMM Challenges Pacquiao In The Philippines (VIDEO)

[Julius Rain]

He was on some top secret mission - OK Ate Glo, watch out!


Welcome back, pare!

The opposition is silent despite the very high increase in the prices of commodities in the Philippines. Something is slowly boiling bro.






A revolution is going to happen soon.














I have to act on it ala James Bond.









Seriously, GMA should be wary about this rice shortage problem. When people are hungry and when corruption is very very rampant..... it is a prelude to revolution.









Hayy.... I applied for secret service but I was turned down because of age. hehehehe. I was too young and too intelligent for them.

Intelligent, ya no doubt, but age!!? C'mon

Looks like all the pac gangs are here tonight, we should celebrate.

but ice is here so it balance things out

[ICB]

thats a lot of oppinions that didn't matter

Pac:

two wins over mab

two wins over eric

and two wins over jmm Yea boy should be two wins!

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

[ICB]

The opposition is silent despite the very high increase in the prices of commodities in the Philippines. Something is slowly boiling bro.






A revolution is going to happen soon.














I have to act on it ala James Bond.









Seriously, GMA should be wary about this rice shortage problem. When people are hungry and when corruption is very very rampant..... it is a prelude to revolution.









Hayy.... I applied for secret service but I was turned down because of age. hehehehe. I was too young and too intelligent for them.

Intelligent, ya no doubt, but age!!? C'mon

Looks like all the pac gangs are here tonight, we should celebrate.

but ice is here so it balance things out

Yep thats right i will take on all of the Pac fans so bring it on

[Julius Rain]

A lot of a opinions that don't matter ?? a lot of those guys have been watching boxing longer than you have been born my friend. So why shouldn't there opinion count and yours should ?? and IMO Pacquiao should be 0-2 against Marquez.

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

[pacfan]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

[ICB]

The only real opinions that mattered were the judges. In both fights the judges had pac winning FACT! pac is 6-1 against 3 great amigos my friend. two a piece, and dropped all three at an average of 4 times with noun of them dropping him. Thats greatness buddy those you can't deny

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights.

[ICB]

What actually happened was Pac won the first fight, should have become champ. JMM gets a draw in the second, so Pac still retains the belt.

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.

[Julius Rain]

I love how you use Judges in your argument to defend Pacquiao but you dismiss them in other arguments, its also a fact that Whitaker drew with Chavez but who really believes that was fair scoring ?? now im not saying that it is as controversial as that but im just giving you an example how that logic is flawed, its also a fact that many more people had Marquez winning than Pacquiao. Its also a fact that Marquez out landed Pacquiao and landed at a much better percentage, Im not saying Pacquiao isn't great but i still think he should be 0-2 against Marquez.

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights .

Ice Im talking about in close fights, respecting the record books in close fights. Thats why i said Im fine with the first one being a draw.

Fair enough Ice.

BTW what do you think jmm should do now? IMO since he wants fight not for the money but to prove to the people he really won, then he should definitely rematch chris john and kick his ass while pac is busy with david diaz.

[pacfan]

The scoring in the first fight was garbage two judges had it 115-110 i mean what the hell were they watching ?? and the 2nd fight well it has to be said if you look on the internet your find that most boxing websites had Marquez winning, even Ring Magazine didn't think Pacquiao won, let me give you an example.


- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.

• Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquaio but did not believe he won the fight

- Pacfan: 115-113 Pacquaio

By the way ICB, have you changed your mind on the 11th round? If you haven't, keep watching carefully until you are sure and then make your decision. Then, I'll believe you.

To be honest Pacfan i haven't actually watched the fight since we had that little debate, but i will watch it again shortly.

Take you time, ICB, there's no need to hurry. Watch at you convenient time.

[ICB]

Im using the judges because both fights were close and could of gone either way so thats why their opinions mattered so much more. It was in their hands to decided that fight, they did their best. We can only respect that. As much as I want to moan about the first fight being a draw but should be a s.d win for pac.Im over it and I really won't, I'd say pac won it but im fine with it going into the record books as a draw. Unlike you ice you can't respect the record books nor can you accept them, and you was foolish enough to call this rematch a robbery.

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights .

Ice Im talking about in close fights, respecting the record books in close fights. Thats why i said Im fine with the first one being a draw.

Fair enough Ice.

BTW what do you think jmm should do now? IMO since he wants fight not for the money but to prove to the people he really won, then he should definitely rematch chris john and kick his ass while pac is busy with david diaz.

I think he should keep busy and not just wait for Pacquiao thats worst thing to do IMO. Im not sure about him rematching Chris John because that would mean he would have to move down in weight then if he wants to fight Pacquiao he will have to move up 2 weight classes and thats not good for his body IMO. If Marquez stays at Super Featherweight he should fight Valero, if he can't get that fight then he should take on Guzman. If he moves up to Lightweight then he should take on Nate Campbell.

Its good we can debate in a friendly way again, all that trash talking last time made both of us look bad IMO.

[Julius Rain]

Yes because i was typing and watching the fight at the same time so i missed a lot of footage. Remember i was watching it on Sopcast, and did i not change my scorecard after watching it in good quality ?? The record books should not always be respected in all cases thats flawed statement, so we should respect fights like Lewis vs Holyfield 1 being a draw, and we should respect Ramirez vs Whitaker 1 being a win for Ramirez ?? i can accept Pacquiao getting the nod in the rematch i already gave Pacquiao his credit did i not ?? but IMO Marquez should of got the in both fights, just like its your opinion he should of got the nod in both fights .

Ice Im talking about in close fights, respecting the record books in close fights. Thats why i said Im fine with the first one being a draw.

Fair enough Ice.

BTW what do you think jmm should do now? IMO since he wants fight not for the money but to prove to the people he really won, then he should definitely rematch chris john and kick his ass while pac is busy with david diaz.

I think he should keep busy and not just wait for Pacquiao thats worst thing to do IMO. Im not sure about him rematching Chris John because that would mean he would have to move down in weight then if he wants to fight Pacquiao he will have to move up 2 weight classes and thats not good for his body IMO. If Marquez stays at Super Featherweight he should fight Valero, if he can't get that fight then he should take on Guzman. If he moves up to Lightweight then he should take on Nate Campbell.

Its good we can debate in a friendly way again, all that trash talking last time made both of us look bad IMO.

I think goldenboy should bait little john into fighting jmm for the meantime while we await for the third fight between pac and jmm. I know john can make 130lbs no way should jmm move back down to 126. If this doesn't happen I agree either nate at lightweight, valero or guzman at 130lbs.

[brucelee]

The opposition is silent despite the very high increase in the prices of commodities in the Philippines. Something is slowly boiling bro.






A revolution is going to happen soon.














I have to act on it ala James Bond.









Seriously, GMA should be wary about this rice shortage problem. When people are hungry and when corruption is very very rampant..... it is a prelude to revolution.









Hayy.... I applied for secret service but I was turned down because of age. hehehehe. I was too young and too intelligent for them.

Intelligent, ya no doubt, but age!!? C'mon

Looks like all the pac gangs are here tonight, we should celebrate.

but ice is here so it balance things out

He's a pac*****. No wonder he's here.hehehe

[ICB]

Intelligent, ya no doubt, but age!!? C'mon

Looks like all the pac gangs are here tonight, we should celebrate.

but ice is here so it balance things out

He's a pac*****. No wonder he's here.hehehe

I like Pacquiao im not a hater.

[brucelee]

but ice is here so it balance things out

He's a pac*****. No wonder he's here.hehehe

I like Pacquiao im not a hater.

Ohhh. Sorry with the asterisks ICB. I mean pac ***** = pac lover

[pacfan]

He's a pac*****. No wonder he's here.hehehe

I like Pacquiao im not a hater.

Ohhh. Sorry with the asterisks ICB. I mean pac ***** = pac lover

ICB's all right. Remember he had Marquez winning almost all rounds in his RBR and was man enough to correct himself to just 1 point win. Now who's brave enough to overturn his scoring almost completely like that.