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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
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    You're right in a sense, Cotto could outbox Tony, but I think he would get drawn into a war simply because he is a fighter, and I'm sure he has lots of pride, but by the time he realizes he should have boxed it may be too late. Cotto is strong but Tony's bigger and stronger, Cotto does not have the speed or slickness needed to get away from this machine. If the same Marg that showed up this past Saturday shows up on the night these two meet...Cotto is getting KO'd! And I hope no Cotto fan believes that Cotto could KO Tony, would never happen Marg has a chin like brick wall and if he tries attacking the body he's gonna get KO'd even quicker by an uppercut.
    Tony is going to get out boxed and dropped in the early rounds.
    This fight should go 12 with Cotto getting a UD


    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    Yes, I said DROPPED. How many Tony fights have you studied? 2?

    Watch his whole career and watch him get dropped several times.

    Cotto has more than enough tools to win.


    And yes I saw the second fight. I said this fight would be no different from the first fight.
    Cotto is no Cintron.
    Cotto is no Gatti
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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
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    Tony is going to get out boxed and dropped in the early rounds.
    This fight should go 12 with Cotto getting a UD


    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    Yes, I said DROPPED. How many Tony fights have you studied? 2?

    Watch his whole career and watch him get dropped several times.

    Cotto has more than enough tools to win.


    And yes I saw the second fight. I said this fight would be no different from the first fight.
    Cotto is no Cintron.
    Cotto is no Gatti

    and Margarito is a Gomez

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

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    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    Yes, I said DROPPED. How many Tony fights have you studied? 2?

    Watch his whole career and watch him get dropped several times.

    Cotto has more than enough tools to win.


    And yes I saw the second fight. I said this fight would be no different from the first fight.
    Cotto is no Cintron.
    Cotto is no Gatti

    and Margarito is a Gomez
    He will be

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Your right about the "Insanity" part cause if you think Cottos fucked then you got it all wrong.

    No doubt Margaritos tough and comes to fight for 12 full rounds. But Cottos gonna beat him.

    Also something tells me you WISH, Margarito beats Cotto so that all the tallks about Cotto beating PBF and Cotto being better and PBFs scared of Cotto can be something you (and other PBF fans) use.

    I wanna believe your posts but I'm getting the impression they come with bad intensions...


    I don't get tired of repeating this but because you loose to one fighter doesn't mean you'll loose to another. Without comparing styles and records. Many fighters have lost in the middle of great reigns and or in their prime but have bounced back and moved on to beat other fighters.

    Emile lost Carter when Carter had like 20 fights but still Emile went on to beat Archer, Rodriguez, Tiger, Benvenuti and Briscoe to name a few.

    Arguello lost to Vilomar and bounced back from the loss. Same thing with Duran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Your right about the "Insanity" part cause if you think Cottos fucked then you got it all wrong.
    I think Tony has the toughness and grit to take Cotto's best, again Tony dosent do anything spectacular but Win!!!! He has better than average power, unreal stamina, confidence, experience and determination

    Margarito has a sick uppercut and thats Cotto's weakness, Margarito will be a whirlwind in Cotto's face throwing Combo's upstairs, downstairs etc. Cotto will back away and get on his bike just to get run over by Margarito.. I just think its a stylistic nightmare for Cotto..

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Also something tells me you WISH, Margarito beats Cotto so that all the tallks about Cotto beating PBF and Cotto being better and PBFs scared of Cotto can be something you (and other PBF fans) use.

    I wanna believe your posts but I'm getting the impression they come with bad intensions...
    I 'm not gonna say I am insulted by your insinuation but I'm suprised seeing that I consider you a good Saddo friend and I figured you know me a little better than that.. I have always said what I mean and mean what I say with eliminating the guess work.

    I have always been gracious in defeat of a fighter I was pulling for and quick to congratulate as well as Manning up and being accountable when I was wrong, I like to to think my integrity speaks for itself unchallenged or questioned as well as my loyalty to my fighters that lost, Lacy for example



    Also the truth is I am tired of being a Floyd apologist of late, I am one of if not the biggest Floyd fan here and I believe that he is PFP#1 Boxer in the world and he is lightyears ahead of everyone else.. BUT he is not defending his Welterweight crown and stake in the division, meanwhile I sat on my couch Saturday night and watched 2 guys put on a show of desire and ferocity that injected some energy into me.. As people were stating before the Welterweight division is getting along just fine without Floyd Mayweather jr I am still a huge fan of his and loyal to a fault and will watch and support and sing his praises but if Floyd wants to fight the Oscars and Hattons of the world again than he should vacate his Welterweight titles and concentrate on his PFP ranking instead, its not fair to the rest of the Welters

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Also something tells me you WISH, Margarito beats Cotto so that all the tallks about Cotto beating PBF and Cotto being better and PBFs scared of Cotto can be something you (and other PBF fans) use.
    .
    I don't think this is true bro. I think Floyd, Cotto and all boxing fans alike want to see this match. Why wouldn't they? It's a fight that would prove who the greatest Welterweight on the planet is and every fan would like to be proved right. That the fighter they root for is superior.

    As far as who is going to win this match between Cotto and Margarito - I can see both sides of the arguement but one thing that hasn't been mentiond in Cotto's favour are Cintron's limitations. He is a fighter who is mentally from the 'Zab Judah' mould. As soon as he couldn't knock the fuck out of Margarito with those right hands he lost his will to survive. Cintron lost all focus and broke down like we've seen him do before. Cotto is a cold, calculated, focused killer who won't be phased just because he can't knock Margarito out. He's a smarter fighter than Cintron and can adapt to suit a particular situation without panicking. I'm still undecided as to who will win but don't underestimate Cotto's ability to maintain deadly focus.

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post

    You're right in a sense, Cotto could outbox Tony, but I think he would get drawn into a war simply because he is a fighter, and I'm sure he has lots of pride, but by the time he realizes he should have boxed it may be too late. Cotto is strong but Tony's bigger and stronger, Cotto does not have the speed or slickness needed to get away from this machine. If the same Marg that showed up this past Saturday shows up on the night these two meet...Cotto is getting KO'd! And I hope no Cotto fan believes that Cotto could KO Tony, would never happen Marg has a chin like brick wall and if he tries attacking the body he's gonna get KO'd even quicker by an uppercut.
    Tony is going to get out boxed and dropped in the early rounds.
    This fight should go 12 with Cotto getting a UD


    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    People said the same about Paul Williams.
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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    only way cotto wins is by outboxing margarito, he don't wanna trade with that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny_G View Post

    Tony is going to get out boxed and dropped in the early rounds.
    This fight should go 12 with Cotto getting a UD


    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    People said the same about Paul Williams.

    Lets not get it twisted though, PW had the night of his life. Quintana proved that.

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    I don't know why i still seeing some Fans that UNDERESTIMATE the Cottos power and comparing the power with Margarito , i can say that Margarito is getting better , but cmon , i know that Margaro Team doesn't going prepare Margaro to fight Cotto inside they know that Cotto is Danger in that style ,he is more fast have more technically combinations have a Danger hook that comes first than a uppercut in which Margaro is good , but if they are intelligent , they should going prepare for outbox , they have to take use the reach in advantage for Margaro .................


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    I don't know why i still seeing some Fans that UNDERESTIMATE the Cottos power and comparing the power with Margarito , i can say that Margarito is getting better , but cmon , i know that Margaro Team doesn't going prepare Margaro to fight Cotto inside they know that Cotto is Danger in that style ,he is more fast have more technically combinations have a Danger hook that comes first than a uppercut in which Margaro is good , but if they are intelligent , they should going prepare for outbox , they have to take use the reach in advantage for Margaro .................
    I agree with you on the fact that to have the absolute greatest chance at a victory is for Marg. to use his distance...but that guy loves to bang and he is gonna go in for it, that being said unless Marg. has a weakness to the body that we have not seen, Cotto isnt gonna knock him out, Marg. has way to much tolerance for pain and I dont see him getting dropped.

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
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    DROPPED?! Did you even watch Saturdays fight? Marg gets hard ons for a war! and ya Cotto can outbox him but he's not fast or slick enough to escape the wrath that is TOny Margarito.
    People said the same about Paul Williams.

    Lets not get it twisted though, PW had the night of his life. Quintana proved that.
    In actuality I think that his loss to Williams was more a resultant of his own inactivity in the early rounds rather than any spectacular showing from Williams.

    In turn he had an excellent night against Cintron, so on any given night he could reproduce performances from his "Williams" or "Cintron" drawers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    I don't know why i still seeing some Fans that UNDERESTIMATE the Cottos power and comparing the power with Margarito , i can say that Margarito is getting better , but cmon , i know that Margaro Team doesn't going prepare Margaro to fight Cotto inside they know that Cotto is Danger in that style ,he is more fast have more technically combinations have a Danger hook that comes first than a uppercut in which Margaro is good , but if they are intelligent , they should going prepare for outbox , they have to take use the reach in advantage for Margaro .................
    I agree with you on the fact that to have the absolute greatest chance at a victory is for Marg. to use his distance...but that guy loves to bang and he is gonna go in for it, that being said unless Marg. has a weakness to the body that we have not seen, Cotto isnt gonna knock him out, Marg. has way to much tolerance for pain and I dont see him getting dropped.
    Well my friend we going see in that fight the real weakness of Margaro , that is what i trying to say , everybody talking what Margarito going do and that he assimilate very well , but we can underestimate the Cottos power , is guarantee that he don't going assimilate the Cottos power , we saw Cotto with Judah that for me hit more or same as Margarito and Cotto could assimilate his power in where now have a better defense , so we know that Cotto can assimilate , but What do you think about Margarito ?.................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    I don't know why i still seeing some Fans that UNDERESTIMATE the Cottos power and comparing the power with Margarito , i can say that Margarito is getting better , but cmon , i know that Margaro Team doesn't going prepare Margaro to fight Cotto inside they know that Cotto is Danger in that style ,he is more fast have more technically combinations have a Danger hook that comes first than a uppercut in which Margaro is good , but if they are intelligent , they should going prepare for outbox , they have to take use the reach in advantage for Margaro .................
    I agree with you on the fact that to have the absolute greatest chance at a victory is for Marg. to use his distance...but that guy loves to bang and he is gonna go in for it, that being said unless Marg. has a weakness to the body that we have not seen, Cotto isnt gonna knock him out, Marg. has way to much tolerance for pain and I dont see him getting dropped.
    Well my friend we going see in that fight the real weakness of Margaro , that is what i trying to say , everybody talking what Margarito going do and that he assimilate very well , but we can underestimate the Cottos power , is guarantee that he don't going assimilate the Cottos power , we saw Cotto with Judah that for me hit more or same as Margarito and Cotto could assimilate his power in where now have a better defense , so we know that Cotto can assimilate , but What do you think about Margarito ?.................
    dont get me wrong...this is not a walk in the park for MArg. but like Dax said and I have said in other threads, everyone is acting as if Cotto is a 2-bit bum. Why the hell would everyone have that impression?? Cotto is the hardest hitter in the WW division point blank. He has been the most avoided man in boxing for years, even ODLH didnt want none, Mosley said in an interview when asked why Floyd was ducking Marg. even though it would have at the time been the biggest payday of Floyds career...
    "I dont know why Floyd is ducking him, maybe he's worried. BUT, DONT GET ME WRONG I WOULDNT WANT TO FIGHT MARGARITO EITHER...
    " this fight is alot closer than all Cotto fans care to admit. I am a Cotto fan also but I can realize that Cotto V Marg. is more dangerous for Cotto than Cotto V Floyd.

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    Default Re: More Filth, Insanity and Blasphemy Coming out of JT'S Mouth

    Tony is a Journeyman, Tony is not elite, Tony is a club fighter, Tony does not have that good of a jaw, Tony will lose to anyone with a pulse, Tony has bad hair......Anything to discredit Tony....Well here is what I say about it all....

    He went 8 yrs without a loss...He has never been knockedout/TKO'd etc...A headbutt in the second Santos fight is as close as he came....

    He has beaten big punchers, owend a guy named Cintron many people were very very very high on even before the first fight, Nearly turned Lujan into a one eared circus freak, he has held two versions of the WW title, the first half of the Clottey fight gets grossly over exaggerated (I think someone said he was being beaten half to death or something close to the effect) and the Williams fight was his fault for starting so slowly...that is a FACT not opinion...Williams did not beat Tony that night Tony beat Tony!!!!


    Yet no one wants to give him respect? I don't get it?...I mean you don't have to be a fan of the guy but fuck man people simply are purly just not giving him his due on anything...It is just out of pure dislike or out of what people here like to call "Being a Hater"....Talk all the trash you want but you can not take away what the man has accomplished...

    Danng G is giving Judah more respect....IMO that tells me he has doubts about Cotto walking over Tony like he is trying to make everyone believe...

    You don't have to like the man but you can not deny what he has accomplished...plain and simple....

    Is he the best out there?...I won't say that and I am a big Margarito fan...I will say though he could beat anyone on any given night and it would not be an upset..Just my opp
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