Photos: Joe Calzaghe is so small?

[Fenster]

How does Hopkins have the experience advantage?

B-Hop clearly has the experience advantage being 20 years in boxing with a total of 54 fights. Joe has 44 total fights in 15 years...

B-Hop also has the tougher opponents...

Calzaghe also has a pretty nifty amateur record that you might want to consider.

Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. Both these guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins has HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

[XaduBoxer]

B-Hop clearly has the experience advantage being 20 years in boxing with a total of 54 fights. Joe has 44 total fights in 15 years...

B-Hop also has the tougher opponents...

Calzaghe also has a pretty nifty amateur record that you might want to consider.

Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. These guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins as HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

[ross]

Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Theres a reason for that

Theres also a reason Bernard is used to it

[donnydarkoIRL]

B-Hop clearly has the experience advantage being 20 years in boxing with a total of 54 fights. Joe has 44 total fights in 15 years...

B-Hop also has the tougher opponents...

Calzaghe also has a pretty nifty amateur record that you might want to consider.

Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. Both these guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins has HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

Calzaghe hasa much more extensive amateur background

[Fenster]

Calzaghe also has a pretty nifty amateur record that you might want to consider.

Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. These guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins as HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

[XaduBoxer]

Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. These guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins as HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Depends on how you look at it... Sometimes it's a burden to think that there might be a time when your "0" has to go... When you lose already, you're not afraid of losing anymore... no more pressure...

Another thing Joe hasn't experience yet... fighting away from home (aside from one in Germany)... How Joe gonna handle this?

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Germany is the most notorious place in the world for travelling fighters taking on germans but Joe went there and knocked out someone bigger than Bernard has ever knocked out 6,4" and bigger than a middle or ex welter

[XaduBoxer]

Germany is the most notorious place in the world for travelling fighters taking on germans but Joe went there and knocked out someone bigger than Bernard has ever knocked out 6,4" and bigger than a middle or ex welter

Joe passed that one in Germany (and Denmark) with flying colors... But how will Joe perform in his Las Vegas/American debut?

[Fenster]

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Depends on how you look at it... Sometimes it's a burden to think that there might be a time when your "0" has to go... When you lose already, you're not afraid of losing anymore... no more pressure...

Another thing Joe hasn't experience yet... fighting away from home (aside from one in Germany)... How Joe gonna handle this?

Nah.. once you KNOW how to lose it's EASIER to lose. It's science.


Joe might not handle Vegas. That's a possible. HOME advantage clearly for Hopkins.

[XaduBoxer]

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Depends on how you look at it... Sometimes it's a burden to think that there might be a time when your "0" has to go... When you lose already, you're not afraid of losing anymore... no more pressure...

Another thing Joe hasn't experience yet... fighting away from home (aside from one in Germany)... How Joe gonna handle this?

Nah.. once you KNOW how to lose it's EASIER to lose. It's science.


Joe might not handle Vegas. That's a possible. HOME advantage clearly for Hopkins.

What we can do now is just wait... Waaaa can't wait anymore...
Nice discussion guys... Need to logout now...

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Exactly.


There's no experience ADVANTAGE. These guys have been fighting their entire lives.. at the very TOP for donkeys years

Hopkins as HOME advantage. Maybe Calzaghe wont handle fighting in Hopkins backyard.. but i doubt it.

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Not knowing how to lose is not always an advantage. Just because Joe has fought bums and won. It is actually a disadvantage. When he steps in the ring with someone of Hopkins calibur when things start going down hill, or not exactly the way he wants he will get worried. Plus not knowing what it's like to loose he will not have that motivation of not wanting to loose again. Therefore the extra boost you can get from that feeling will not be there to take. Loosing for the first time is more of a creep up and bite you in the ass thing anyway.

[Fenster]

Older guys has the experience advantage... Hopkins is 43 while Joe is 36... Hopkins already experienced everything (i think) but Joe has one thing he hasn't experience yet... that is LOSING a fight...

Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Not knowing how to lose is not always an advantage. Just because Joe has fought bums and won. It is actually a disadvantage. When he steps in the ring with someone of Hopkins calibur when things start going down hill, or not exactly the way he wants he will get worried. Plus not knowing what it's like to loose he will not have that motivation of not wanting to loose again. Therefore the extra boost you can get from that feeling will not be there to take. Loosing for the first time is more of a creep up and bite you in the ass thing anyway.

So it's a disadvantage to win?

If Joe had lost to a "bum" like Hopkins has he would have been better off.

Interesting.

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Hopkins has more life experience because he is older.. doesn't mean he has more boxing experience.

And yeah Joe don't know how to lose.. That's a HUGE advantage in his favour.

Add that to your list.

Not knowing how to lose is not always an advantage. Just because Joe has fought bums and won. It is actually a disadvantage. When he steps in the ring with someone of Hopkins calibur when things start going down hill, or not exactly the way he wants he will get worried. Plus not knowing what it's like to loose he will not have that motivation of not wanting to loose again. Therefore the extra boost you can get from that feeling will not be there to take. Loosing for the first time is more of a creep up and bite you in the ass thing anyway.

So it's a disadvantage to win?

If Joe had lost to a "bum" like Hopkins has he would have been better off.

Interesting.

I never said winning was a disadvantage. I said not knowing what it's like to loose can be a disadvantage. There is a difference. For example tasting a loss, is somthing that you can use to your favor not only in boxing but in life in general for future experience. It's just another aspect of the game that Hopkins knows about that Joe doesn't. I think it was pretty clear and legitimate what I was stating and your just being sarcastic about it. That's pretty lame fella.

[Fenster]

Not knowing how to lose is not always an advantage. Just because Joe has fought bums and won. It is actually a disadvantage. When he steps in the ring with someone of Hopkins calibur when things start going down hill, or not exactly the way he wants he will get worried. Plus not knowing what it's like to loose he will not have that motivation of not wanting to loose again. Therefore the extra boost you can get from that feeling will not be there to take. Loosing for the first time is more of a creep up and bite you in the ass thing anyway.

So it's a disadvantage to win?

If Joe had lost to a "bum" like Hopkins has he would have been better off.

Interesting.

I never said winning was a disadvantage. I said not knowing what it's like to loose can be a disadvantage. There is a difference. For example tasting a loss, is somthing that you can use to your favor not only in boxing but in life in general for future experience. It's just another aspect of the game that Hopkins knows about that Joe doesn't. I think it was pretty clear and legitimate what I was stating and your just being sarcastic about it. That's pretty lame fella.

Maybe it deserves sarcasm.

You're trying to paint LOSING as an advantage.

LOSING is NOT an advantage to WINNERS. Fact.