Based on what I saw tonight, I just don't see how Joe can earn Pavlik's respect in there. Pavlik would hunt him down.
Both Hopkins and Joe looked old tonight.
Based on what I saw tonight, I just don't see how Joe can earn Pavlik's respect in there. Pavlik would hunt him down.
Both Hopkins and Joe looked old tonight.
Pavlik by KO.
I saw a cocky Calzaghe tonight. He will get clocked big time if he put both of his hands down against Pavlik.
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Calzaghe UD.
Calzaghe cant stick around too long now. Jones and Pavlik and time to call it a day.
Hahahaah
Already its started
Sorry guys, you just dont get it do you?
Without being rude here...i dont think you understand who JOE CALZAGHE IS!
He can adapt to anything.
I still cant believe people just dont learn. He beat lacy when everyone said hed get beat.
Then he beat kessler when everyone said hed get beat.
Then he beat bhop after the doubters said hed get beat.
LOOK AT THE PATTERN EMMERGING HERE!!!
Any betting man would clearly see this emmerging pattern and then say 'calzaghe will beat pavlik'.
I think joe will beat pavlik convingly because pavlik would get forced to fight joe's fight and lose.
We just saw that bhop could not control calzaghe and calzaghe adapted to win that fight...he will beat pavlik v convingly in my opinion.
BUT I'LL SAY THIS!!!
EVEN WHEN CALZAGHES BEATS ROY JONES AND BEATS PAVLIK, THERE WILL STILL BE THE DOUBTERS AND HATERS...SORRY GUYS BUT YOU NEVER LEARN DO YOU...YOU REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT JOE CALZAGHE IS ABOUT!!!
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Fairplay to you mate.
We are entitled to our different opinions, i respect that
But id have to disagree.
Although i really like pavlik as a fighter, he is exciting and prob my second fav boxer around atm. I cant see joe losing this matchup heres why:
It will be at super middle i presume? Or a catch weight?
Calzaghe will come into the middle of the ring and start brawling with kelly. He has more speed than kelly aswell as more ring craft and more experience, this brawling and tactical experience will prevail.
Look how taylor dropped pavlik in the second round of ther first fight. In the middle of the ring, taylor was faster and had a higher work rate (only for first 4 rounds until his useless stamina caught up with him). Against calzaghe i think it would be like this all night long though, unless calzaghe started countering.
Against nard calzaghe had a v tough job to adapt his style to beat nard. Against pavlik he doesnt need to adapt, he knows what to do from the very beggining.
Pavlik doesnt have the skill i dont think to match joe in a toe to toe bout and joe is too clever to start going on the ropes against kelly. He doesnt tire out like taylor did and can find his range a lot better.
Id say calzaghe will beat everyone who he fights.
It will be a very tempting deal for pavlik because to be unbeaten yourself and as a young fighter if he managed to beat joe calzaghe he would instantly be a hall of famer basically...imagine if pavlik beats calzaghe, kessler and bute!
But its not gonna happen. Pavik will get beat and joe calzaghe will retire after beating jones and hopkins.
The haters (not reffering to u here mate) will keep hating on him even though he will retire 47,0,0 and have beaten eubank, reid, lacy, mitchell, kessler, hopkins, jones and pavlik in his career. Theyll still hate him and criticise even though it kind of speaks for itself.
Those are the two fights I wasnt too then retire undefeated .
Jones is too old and it may be a similar fight to last night but not as dirty . Joe outpoints Jones.
The Pac fight will be interesting but Pav is pretty crude and I think he'll be easy to outbox. Joe would be too quick for him , mark him up then take him out . Taylor let Pav off teh hook when he had him down but Joe doesnt gas out like Jermain so I think Joe stops Pav in 10 rounds.
The mind games Joe plays IN the ring are just as effective as the mind games Bernard plays OUT of the ring.
You saw what happened when Pavlik tried to showboat infront of the lighter hitting Jermain Taylor.....I think Joe could do that and finish him off as well.
There is nothing like a southpaw with quick hands to ruin your day
They both looked old and slow. I thought Calzaghe was supposed to have lightning hands. I saw that slow motion of a flurry that he threw and none of them landed. I thought he looked like a kitten pawing at a toy. Hopkins hurt Joe a few times even though Joe has too much pride and does not admit it. I wonder what a guy with a iron chin. World class boxing skills and one the hardest hitting guys pound for pound would do to him. I just do not see
Calzaghe hurting Pavlik at all. I do however see Pavlik hurting Calzaghe. The best man Joe has faced is a middle aged man. Come on. Now he wants Jones Jr. Soon he will be cruising the retirement homes looking for former champs. I hope Kelly Pavlik destroys Lockett in a Cotto Gomez type fashion . And hopefully that would light a fire under Joe's and Enzo's ass.
Good point, his combinations aren't as fast and venomous as they used to be. When he was at his physical peak, it was this aspect that gave him such and advantage when in the trenches. He couldn't match Kessler when trading, and a 43 year old Hopkins was up to the job last night as well. He CAN beat Pavlik, but only by boxing from the outside going in and out like he did in the middle rounds against Kessler.
Pavliks jab and his range would play a factor. Pavlik would do the oppisite of Hopkins. He will move forward into punches(we all saw that in the Miranda fight) and he will use his range in the middle of the ring. Kelly Pavlik will be by far the best fighter I believe Calzaghe will face.Hopkins and Jones of the 90's would have been a different story. They both are aged and slower. I would say that the Roy Jones I saw in the 1990's was the best boxer I have ever scene. It would be a huge test for both of them and a great fight for the fans.
I totally agree http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4KsWV2gtI
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