Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
Dude, Pavlik is big and he hits hard BUT he's open to counters and his hands are slower than Joe's. I think Calzaghe being quick, being a good counter puncher, and being a southpaw would really screw with Pavlik who's only big test has been vs Jermain Taylor....sure he fought Edison Miranda but Miranda has proven to be a bigger headcase than a good fighter.


I think Joe's style of fighting would benefit from Pavlik's style of fighting but I can't see Pavlik benefitting from the way Joe fights....I think he could psyche out Pavlik and mess him up big time....Pavlik IMO is like a blend of Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler (sure he's a better fighter and more effective but he's similar to both of them, with speed, power, and defense) and Joe handled them with ease
Agreed again.

Although i dont know if pavlik is a better fighter than kessler. Id say that kessler vs pavlik would be a v interesting fight, i couldt predict who would win.

What youve said about styles is correct in my opinion, joe will find the range to counter kelly at, he will confuse kelly and catch him with combos, he will tie him up with in fighting aswell like he did with lacy.

Although pavlik is one of my fav fighters i cant see him beating joe. Id like to see pavlik fight abrahams first because it would be nice to see pavlik win the undisputed title to his name aswell. If he beats abrahams and i think he will then it gives him even more cred when coming into face calzaghe, perhaps more experience aswell, experience against abrahams could be vital when fighting someone like calzaghe.