And so, the first part of my prediction was correct

[LondonBB]

You think that a racist can never change ?? Is that your mind set? Thats telling.

NOPE!

Please dont missquote me

I said a 'true racist'!

There are many people who can be racist yet change...but a true racist wont change. A leopard doesnt change its spots

Just because some people don't think Calzaghe won the fight doesn't make them haters.

I hope he doesn't fight RJJ; as that will mean nothing. He would have gotten beat horribly in Jones' prime. I would rather see him fight a younger guy like Pavlik, Dawson or even Jermaine Taylor

True mate, IT DOESNT MAKE THEM HATERS

BUT...what makes them haters is that they fail to give calzaghe credit even though hes now beaten eubank, reid, lacy, kessler and hopkins...AND...

THEY STILL WONT GIVE HIM CREDIT AFTER HE BEATS JONES AND PAVLIK.

That is what makes trhem haters

Any rational person would say, 'hmmm i dont like joes style but he must be good at something if hes 45,0,0 been undefeated as a pro, champ for 11 years, beaten lacy, kessler, reid, eubank and hopkins, plus a champ at 2 weights'.

But they arent rational, instead they are a hater because despite what joe is achieving and has achieved (esspecially when he beats jones and pavlik) they will still say a 'slapper with no power and cant throw straight punches'...that is why it is laughable. This is where the term 'hater' comes into play

I agree i dont want to see jones fight calzaghe BUT I DISAGREE that he would get beaten horribly in jones prime...again that is 'hate' speaking.

Joe may well have got beaten by roy in roys prime, but i think a prime joe calzaghe wouldve faired up well against him, definately the best fighter that roy would ever have faced.

As a result i wouldnt mind joe fightingroy just so that it can rub it in that he has a win against jones on his career and ends jones legacy completely whilst totally cementing his own.

Then finally by beating pavlik he beats the prime american fighter at his peak yet will still be hated upon and called names.

Wait n see guys...garuntee my prediction comes true

All it would take is for someone to say 'i dont like calzaghe but fairplay to him i give him credit where credit is due'...but THE HATERS WILL NEVER EVER SAY THAT

Well, I personally won't give him alot of credit if he beats an old, tired Jones. But if he should whoop Pavlik, all credit due to him. I think he beat Hopkins last night, and he did a great job with Lacy and Kessler.

But you can't call people haters for something that hasn't even happened yet. Pavlik and Jones haven't even been signed yet, so your playing fortune teller.

You can call me a hater, as I already stated I won't give much credit if he beats Jones, but you can't read other people's minds and what others may decide in the future.

You need to calm down and just enjoy Joe's victory without trying to heat people up around here. Just friendly advice; as the mods on this board don't f#ck around when new guys come on and seem to exist only for the sake of starting a riot.

Respect to you mate

You said something i give respect to you for...that should he woop pavlik then you will give him lots of credit.

This means...YOU ARE NOT A HATER

I know it might seem im being v defensive, im not trying to start any trouble here, trust me. In no way am i a troll (ive put my pic in my avatar) im a boxing fan.

I rate hopkins immensely and rate roy jones immensely, i rate pavlik aswell and really like him as a fighter...have respect for all of them.

Except i cant understand why IF JOE BEATS them all, then people wont respect him?

You have a point with jones, i agree that jones is not like he used to be, chances are that jones wouldve taken calzaghe out if they were both in prime...well definately i higher chance than there is now anyway, id make jones the favorite in that match up, but now id give favorite to calzaghe.

What makes a hater is exactly the opposite of what you said...you said that you respect calz for beating kessler, lacy and hopkins therefore you arent a hater. Then you said should he comprehensively beat pavlik that you will give him major credit. Whereas there are people who will not give him credit even if he beats pavlik and jones then ends his career on 47,0,0.

That is the sign of a hater and that is someone i have no respect for at all.

The first thread i made (first prediction) said that people will still not rate joe should he beat hopkins, the second part was that even if he beats jones, dawson or pavlik they wont rate him either.

If we are being completely honest, could you honestly see how someone can not rate a fighter IF HE MANAGES REMAIN UNDEFEATED AND BEAT:

lacy, eubank, kessler, reid, hopkins, jones and pavlik.

[LEGION]

NOPE!

Please dont missquote me

I said a 'true racist'!

There are many people who can be racist yet change...but a true racist wont change. A leopard doesnt change its spots



True mate, IT DOESNT MAKE THEM HATERS

BUT...what makes them haters is that they fail to give calzaghe credit even though hes now beaten eubank, reid, lacy, kessler and hopkins...AND...

THEY STILL WONT GIVE HIM CREDIT AFTER HE BEATS JONES AND PAVLIK.

That is what makes trhem haters

Any rational person would say, 'hmmm i dont like joes style but he must be good at something if hes 45,0,0 been undefeated as a pro, champ for 11 years, beaten lacy, kessler, reid, eubank and hopkins, plus a champ at 2 weights'.

But they arent rational, instead they are a hater because despite what joe is achieving and has achieved (esspecially when he beats jones and pavlik) they will still say a 'slapper with no power and cant throw straight punches'...that is why it is laughable. This is where the term 'hater' comes into play

I agree i dont want to see jones fight calzaghe BUT I DISAGREE that he would get beaten horribly in jones prime...again that is 'hate' speaking.

Joe may well have got beaten by roy in roys prime, but i think a prime joe calzaghe wouldve faired up well against him, definately the best fighter that roy would ever have faced.

As a result i wouldnt mind joe fightingroy just so that it can rub it in that he has a win against jones on his career and ends jones legacy completely whilst totally cementing his own.

Then finally by beating pavlik he beats the prime american fighter at his peak yet will still be hated upon and called names.

Wait n see guys...garuntee my prediction comes true

All it would take is for someone to say 'i dont like calzaghe but fairplay to him i give him credit where credit is due'...but THE HATERS WILL NEVER EVER SAY THAT

Well, I personally won't give him alot of credit if he beats an old, tired Jones. But if he should whoop Pavlik, all credit due to him. I think he beat Hopkins last night, and he did a great job with Lacy and Kessler.

But you can't call people haters for something that hasn't even happened yet. Pavlik and Jones haven't even been signed yet, so your playing fortune teller.

You can call me a hater, as I already stated I won't give much credit if he beats Jones, but you can't read other people's minds and what others may decide in the future.

You need to calm down and just enjoy Joe's victory without trying to heat people up around here. Just friendly advice; as the mods on this board don't f#ck around when new guys come on and seem to exist only for the sake of starting a riot.

Respect to you mate

You said something i give respect to you for...that should he woop pavlik then you will give him lots of credit.

This means...YOU ARE NOT A HATER

I know it might seem im being v defensive, im not trying to start any trouble here, trust me. In no way am i a troll (ive put my pic in my avatar) im a boxing fan.

I rate hopkins immensely and rate roy jones immensely, i rate pavlik aswell and really like him as a fighter...have respect for all of them.

Except i cant understand why IF JOE BEATS them all, then people wont respect him?

You have a point with jones, i agree that jones is not like he used to be, chances are that jones wouldve taken calzaghe out if they were both in prime...well definately i higher chance than there is now anyway, id make jones the favorite in that match up, but now id give favorite to calzaghe.

What makes a hater is exactly the opposite of what you said...you said that you respect calz for beating kessler, lacy and hopkins therefore you arent a hater. Then you said should he comprehensively beat pavlik that you will give him major credit. Whereas there are people who will not give him credit even if he beats pavlik and jones then ends his career on 47,0,0.

That is the sign of a hater and that is someone i have no respect for at all.

The first thread i made (first prediction) said that people will still not rate joe should he beat hopkins, the second part was that even if he beats jones, dawson or pavlik they wont rate him either.

If we are being completely honest, could you honestly see how someone can not rate a fighter IF HE MANAGES REMAIN UNDEFEATED AND BEAT:

lacy, eubank, kessler, reid, hopkins, jones and pavlik.

I hear you man; respect back. Sometimes new guys come on here, defensively as you put it, and seem more focused on arguing to the point of spiting people; and they get thrown out quick.

There will always be haters, so no point in getting as worked up about it as they do. I am a fan of Calzaghe btw, and one of Hopkins{though his antics are getting old}.

Peace; Mate

[LondonBB]

Peace

I have respect for hopkins and tbh out of that fight id say that even though hopkins lost fair and square, it was incredibly close.

I gave it calzaghe by 2 rounds.

It was probably bhop who showed that at 43 he still can hang in there and almost win against the best in the world. To be a 43 year old man and do that DEMANDS major respect!

So all credit to bhop but credit to joe for managing to adapt and in the end beat hopkins at his own game.

F*ck lol...this fight has generated so many posts its unbelievable!

What anyones opinion on this, we all know it was a close fight, but we can all agree that it has been a huge huge talking point in boxing

[JLAQ]

LOL it wasnt even a close fight. Pac-JMM was a close fight. DLH-Floyd was a close fight. But this, THIS WAS NOT, IS NOT, AND WILL NOT be defined as a close fight.

[LondonBB]

LOL it wasnt even a close fight. Pac-JMM was a close fight. DLH-Floyd was a close fight. But this, THIS WAS NOT, IS NOT, AND WILL NOT be defined as a close fight.

Then we disagree mate, i thought it was a very close fight and calzaghe won by only 2 points.

The dawson vs johnson fight was a closer fight though, yet dawson won unanimously with 116,112 across all 3 judges, make of that what you will

[Taeth]

NOPE!

Please dont missquote me

I said a 'true racist'!

There are many people who can be racist yet change...but a true racist wont change. A leopard doesnt change its spots



True mate, IT DOESNT MAKE THEM HATERS

BUT...what makes them haters is that they fail to give calzaghe credit even though hes now beaten eubank, reid, lacy, kessler and hopkins...AND...

THEY STILL WONT GIVE HIM CREDIT AFTER HE BEATS JONES AND PAVLIK.

That is what makes trhem haters

Any rational person would say, 'hmmm i dont like joes style but he must be good at something if hes 45,0,0 been undefeated as a pro, champ for 11 years, beaten lacy, kessler, reid, eubank and hopkins, plus a champ at 2 weights'.

But they arent rational, instead they are a hater because despite what joe is achieving and has achieved (esspecially when he beats jones and pavlik) they will still say a 'slapper with no power and cant throw straight punches'...that is why it is laughable. This is where the term 'hater' comes into play

I agree i dont want to see jones fight calzaghe BUT I DISAGREE that he would get beaten horribly in jones prime...again that is 'hate' speaking.

Joe may well have got beaten by roy in roys prime, but i think a prime joe calzaghe wouldve faired up well against him, definately the best fighter that roy would ever have faced.

As a result i wouldnt mind joe fightingroy just so that it can rub it in that he has a win against jones on his career and ends jones legacy completely whilst totally cementing his own.

Then finally by beating pavlik he beats the prime american fighter at his peak yet will still be hated upon and called names.

Wait n see guys...garuntee my prediction comes true

All it would take is for someone to say 'i dont like calzaghe but fairplay to him i give him credit where credit is due'...but THE HATERS WILL NEVER EVER SAY THAT

Well, I personally won't give him alot of credit if he beats an old, tired Jones. But if he should whoop Pavlik, all credit due to him. I think he beat Hopkins last night, and he did a great job with Lacy and Kessler.

But you can't call people haters for something that hasn't even happened yet. Pavlik and Jones haven't even been signed yet, so your playing fortune teller.

You can call me a hater, as I already stated I won't give much credit if he beats Jones, but you can't read other people's minds and what others may decide in the future.

You need to calm down and just enjoy Joe's victory without trying to heat people up around here. Just friendly advice; as the mods on this board don't f#ck around when new guys come on and seem to exist only for the sake of starting a riot.

Respect to you mate

You said something i give respect to you for...that should he woop pavlik then you will give him lots of credit.

This means...YOU ARE NOT A HATER

I know it might seem im being v defensive, im not trying to start any trouble here, trust me. In no way am i a troll (ive put my pic in my avatar) im a boxing fan.

I rate hopkins immensely and rate roy jones immensely, i rate pavlik aswell and really like him as a fighter...have respect for all of them.

Except i cant understand why IF JOE BEATS them all, then people wont respect him?

You have a point with jones, i agree that jones is not like he used to be, chances are that jones wouldve taken calzaghe out if they were both in prime...well definately i higher chance than there is now anyway, id make jones the favorite in that match up, but now id give favorite to calzaghe.

What makes a hater is exactly the opposite of what you said...you said that you respect calz for beating kessler, lacy and hopkins therefore you arent a hater. Then you said should he comprehensively beat pavlik that you will give him major credit. Whereas there are people who will not give him credit even if he beats pavlik and jones then ends his career on 47,0,0.

That is the sign of a hater and that is someone i have no respect for at all.

The first thread i made (first prediction) said that people will still not rate joe should he beat hopkins, the second part was that even if he beats jones, dawson or pavlik they wont rate him either.

If we are being completely honest, could you honestly see how someone can not rate a fighter IF HE MANAGES REMAIN UNDEFEATED AND BEAT:

lacy, eubank, kessler, reid, hopkins, jones and pavlik.

What is it they about brains and brawns? You look pretty big so I am guessing by your uneducated posts that your intelligence indirectly proportional to your muscle mass? Seriously your looking like a retard.

[JLAQ]

Well, I personally won't give him alot of credit if he beats an old, tired Jones. But if he should whoop Pavlik, all credit due to him. I think he beat Hopkins last night, and he did a great job with Lacy and Kessler.

But you can't call people haters for something that hasn't even happened yet. Pavlik and Jones haven't even been signed yet, so your playing fortune teller.

You can call me a hater, as I already stated I won't give much credit if he beats Jones, but you can't read other people's minds and what others may decide in the future.

You need to calm down and just enjoy Joe's victory without trying to heat people up around here. Just friendly advice; as the mods on this board don't f#ck around when new guys come on and seem to exist only for the sake of starting a riot.

Respect to you mate

You said something i give respect to you for...that should he woop pavlik then you will give him lots of credit.

This means...YOU ARE NOT A HATER

I know it might seem im being v defensive, im not trying to start any trouble here, trust me. In no way am i a troll (ive put my pic in my avatar) im a boxing fan.

I rate hopkins immensely and rate roy jones immensely, i rate pavlik aswell and really like him as a fighter...have respect for all of them.

Except i cant understand why IF JOE BEATS them all, then people wont respect him?

You have a point with jones, i agree that jones is not like he used to be, chances are that jones wouldve taken calzaghe out if they were both in prime...well definately i higher chance than there is now anyway, id make jones the favorite in that match up, but now id give favorite to calzaghe.

What makes a hater is exactly the opposite of what you said...you said that you respect calz for beating kessler, lacy and hopkins therefore you arent a hater. Then you said should he comprehensively beat pavlik that you will give him major credit. Whereas there are people who will not give him credit even if he beats pavlik and jones then ends his career on 47,0,0.

That is the sign of a hater and that is someone i have no respect for at all.

The first thread i made (first prediction) said that people will still not rate joe should he beat hopkins, the second part was that even if he beats jones, dawson or pavlik they wont rate him either.

If we are being completely honest, could you honestly see how someone can not rate a fighter IF HE MANAGES REMAIN UNDEFEATED AND BEAT:

lacy, eubank, kessler, reid, hopkins, jones and pavlik.

What is it they about brains and brawns? You look pretty big so I am guessing by your uneducated posts that your intelligence indirectly proportional to your muscle mass? Seriously your looking like a retard.

It's "you're" and "sounding".

[LondonBB]

Well, I personally won't give him alot of credit if he beats an old, tired Jones. But if he should whoop Pavlik, all credit due to him. I think he beat Hopkins last night, and he did a great job with Lacy and Kessler.

But you can't call people haters for something that hasn't even happened yet. Pavlik and Jones haven't even been signed yet, so your playing fortune teller.

You can call me a hater, as I already stated I won't give much credit if he beats Jones, but you can't read other people's minds and what others may decide in the future.

You need to calm down and just enjoy Joe's victory without trying to heat people up around here. Just friendly advice; as the mods on this board don't f#ck around when new guys come on and seem to exist only for the sake of starting a riot.

Respect to you mate

You said something i give respect to you for...that should he woop pavlik then you will give him lots of credit.

This means...YOU ARE NOT A HATER

I know it might seem im being v defensive, im not trying to start any trouble here, trust me. In no way am i a troll (ive put my pic in my avatar) im a boxing fan.

I rate hopkins immensely and rate roy jones immensely, i rate pavlik aswell and really like him as a fighter...have respect for all of them.

Except i cant understand why IF JOE BEATS them all, then people wont respect him?

You have a point with jones, i agree that jones is not like he used to be, chances are that jones wouldve taken calzaghe out if they were both in prime...well definately i higher chance than there is now anyway, id make jones the favorite in that match up, but now id give favorite to calzaghe.

What makes a hater is exactly the opposite of what you said...you said that you respect calz for beating kessler, lacy and hopkins therefore you arent a hater. Then you said should he comprehensively beat pavlik that you will give him major credit. Whereas there are people who will not give him credit even if he beats pavlik and jones then ends his career on 47,0,0.

That is the sign of a hater and that is someone i have no respect for at all.

The first thread i made (first prediction) said that people will still not rate joe should he beat hopkins, the second part was that even if he beats jones, dawson or pavlik they wont rate him either.

If we are being completely honest, could you honestly see how someone can not rate a fighter IF HE MANAGES REMAIN UNDEFEATED AND BEAT:

lacy, eubank, kessler, reid, hopkins, jones and pavlik.

What is it they about brains and brawns? You look pretty big so I am guessing by your uneducated posts that your intelligence indirectly proportional to your muscle mass? Seriously your looking like a retard.

Hey fella no need for insults like that

I appreciate you think i look 'pretty big' i am a national bodybuilder and personal trainer And am proud of my own sport

But just because i think that a fighter who is 45,0,0 and has been undisputed champ for 11 years, won in 2 weight classes and beaten eubank, reid, lacy, kessler and hopkins...this makes me a retard?

Come on mate, be reasonable here, i know you hate joe calzaghe but at least simply say that you dont like calzaghe's style yet you rate the fact hes 45,0,0 and beaten some of the best fighters in the sport.

Anyone can see who is the retard if they continuously slate calzaghe as a 'crap fighter'.

But thanx for calling me 'pretty big' 21 inch arms, 30 inch waist and 52 inch chest is 'pretty big'