Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings

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Pac scored 5 wins against 3 future HOFers, 10 KDs and 3 KOs combined.

Calzaghe got floored by a 43 year old future HOFer, and won by SD. I have no problem with him being in #3. But to those people who says he should take Pac's place are just being rediculous.

Btw, Miguel Cotto should be at #4, and Israel Vazquez at 5.

[LondonBB]

Pac scored 5 wins against 3 future HOFers, 10 KDs and 3 KOs combined.

Calzaghe got floored by a 43 year old future HOFer, and won by SD. I have no problem with him being in #3. But to those people who says he should take Pac's place are just being rediculous.

Btw, Miguel Cotto should be at #4, and Israel Vazquez at 5.

I agree with you there mate:

1 floyd
2 pac
3 joe
4 cotto
5 vazquez

Of course though i think it can change around in a year or 18 months.

What defines the 'greatest fighter' is not where they are in the p4p list but where they retire in the p4p list and what their record says.

If this scenario occurs (and i can see it happening).

Floyd continuously avoids cotto and marg, fights ODLH and a rematch against hatton (fuk knows what hes doing a rematch for in england because nothing hatton did warrants a rematch at all, unless i guess you could say that it was what the ref did which gives the rematch some slight legitamacy), still i can see floyd winning the rematch...but then he might lose to cotto!

If floyd loses to cotto, yet calzaghe beats RJJ and beats pavlik...id have to alter the p4p list to:

1 joe
2 cotto
3 floyd
4 manny
5 vazquez

Of course though, should manny go on to beat 2 more class fighter it would then put manny at the top of the list:

1 manny
2 joe
3 cotto
4 floyd
5 vazquez

So over the next year or 18 months it is possible that we see some changes in the list. Personally i believe its joe's goal to retire as p4p number 1.

I think joe is waiting for pavlik to fight and unite the middle weight velts against abrahams first (because this puts pavlik undisputed and also higher in the p4p list) then will want to fight him in his last fight which will put him at the very top of the list.

Im not interested in what haters think, not interested in the garbage that spews from some people's mouths, im interested in records and performance...that fact is that if JC beats RJJ and pavlik he then has beaten eubank, reid, lacy, kessler, hopkins, RJJ and pavlik, with those quality opponents relinguished and a 47,0,0 record, there is no other place to put him than number 1.

It all depends what happens with floyd though aswell i guess, should floyd beat cotto, marg and ODLH (and rematch with hatton which i think he will) then he remains number 1 in my eyes.

Either way, the chances are there for both joe and floyd to go down in history in the top 5 greatest fighters of the last 25 years!

BUT CAN THEY DO IT

Have to wait n see

[XaduBoxer]

PAC can make a very strong claim at no. 1 if he achieves "3 titles in 3 weight divisions in 1 year" this year...

By claiming a 130 lbs. belt last March, PAC already achieved 33% of his goal.

Then he will fighting for the 135 lbs. belt next in June in a very winnable fight...

And if PAC gets a 140 lbs. belt (even if it's the IBO belt) in Oct/Nov this year then he has a very strong case for no. 1 P4P...

Go PAC...

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[brucelee]

Pac scored 5 wins against 3 future HOFers, 10 KDs and 3 KOs combined.

Calzaghe got floored by a 43 year old future HOFer, and won by SD. I have no problem with him being in #3. But to those people who says he should take Pac's place are just being rediculous.

Btw, Miguel Cotto should be at #4, and Israel Vazquez at 5.

I agree. Cotto should be in number 4. Hopkins in number 7.