Can I Ask You Guys Something Regarding The Pavlik vs Calzaghe Fight.

[Dark Lord Al]

One thing i will say had that been Pavlik's right hand that dropped Calzaghe he wouldn't have got back up.Shame Calzaghe didn't try to make super fights years ago rather than fighting in a comfort zone cos lets have it right Hopkins and Jones are massive names but aren't at there best.

I dont know if your deluded, or a hater, or genuinely confused? Let me explain the truth:

Firstly calzaghe DID OFFER RJJ A FIGHT LOTS OF TIMES but rjj didnt accept (why should he have accepted as calzaghe never had popularity in usa, jones wouldnt have gotten much money and it wouldve prob been his riskiest fight, made no sense for jones at all to fight a risky, relatively unknown southpaw fighter).

Secondly, hopkins WAS A FRIGGIN MIDDLEWEIGHT!!! He was never a supermiddle weight...WHY DID HE NOT MOVE UPTO SUPERMIDDLE TO FIGHT CALZAGHE? WHY DID HE NEVER CALL CALZAGHE OUT

Thirdly...so you think winky and tarver are crap aswell then? Seeing as the 'past it' hopkins demolished tarver and comrehensively beat winky.

Face it mate, stop hating. Or perhaps i'll give you the benifit of the doubt, maybe you genuinely didnt realise that calzaghe offered jones a fight years ago, but its pretty common knowledge jones never wanted to fight joe and for pretty good reasons aswell:

1. No money comparatively to other big name us fights
2. Risky southpaw fighter
3. Unkown fighter with lots of risk that wouldnt have increased jones' rep in us.

Points 1.2.3 are true , but anyone who believes for one minute that Calzaghe would have beaten Jones in there primes is dreaming , thats why Calzaghe spent his best years fighting WBO joke challengers , and i for 1 fine it a waste , why didnt Calzaghe step up to LHW years ago and fight Jones and for those who say why should he have , then i ask you this WHY SHOULD PAVLIK MOVE UP TO FIGHT CALZAGHE
Simple fact is Calzaghe beat a guy who was 43 , now he wants Jones who is late thirties , STUFF OF LEGENDS FOR SURE LOL

Another point is this if Larry Homes aged 40 something , beat George Foreman 40 something , does that mean Larry would have beaten George if they were near there primes Well of course it doesnt , so Calzaghe has beaten Hopkins ( 43) if he beats Jones it just makes him better than them at this advanced stage of there career's .
Its all about money now and i dont blame Calzaghe for that , but as for true impact on boxing history , well im not so sure.

[BIG H]

So who should he have fought instead of the 43 year old Hopkins and who should he fight now?

[Dark Lord Al]

So who should he have fought instead of the 43 year old Hopkins and who should he fight now?

If he wants a payday then fight Jones ,im just saying it doesnt mean much if he wins.

[BIG H]

So who should he have fought instead of the 43 year old Hopkins and who should he fight now?

If he wants a payday then fight Jones ,im just saying it doesnt mean much if he wins.

Agreed.

The thing is you keep going back to his past record, well he has stepped up and fought the 3 people everybody said he must fight, what more can he do to impress?

[Dark Lord Al]

So who should he have fought instead of the 43 year old Hopkins and who should he fight now?

If he wants a payday then fight Jones ,im just saying it doesnt mean much if he wins.

Agreed.

The thing is you keep going back to his past record, well he has stepped up and fought the 3 people everybody said he must fight, what more can he do to impress?

To be fair BIG H i wasnt one of the people wanting Calzaghe to fight HOPKINS OR JONES AT THIS STAGE OF THERE CAREERS.

[BIG H]

If he wants a payday then fight Jones ,im just saying it doesnt mean much if he wins.

Agreed.

The thing is you keep going back to his past record, well he has stepped up and fought the 3 people everybody said he must fight, what more can he do to impress?

To be fair BIG H i wasnt one of the people wanting Calzaghe to fight HOPKINS OR JONES AT THIS STAGE OF THERE CAREERS.

Fair enough, but even at this stage in Hopkins career, who would be a bigger challenge at 168 or 175?

[Dark Lord Al]

Agreed.

The thing is you keep going back to his past record, well he has stepped up and fought the 3 people everybody said he must fight, what more can he do to impress?

To be fair BIG H i wasnt one of the people wanting Calzaghe to fight HOPKINS OR JONES AT THIS STAGE OF THERE CAREERS.

Fair enough, but even at this stage in Hopkins career, who would be a bigger challenge at 168 or 175?

Doesnt that sum up Calzaghe's place in history up ?
That Hopkins aged 43 was the best fight out there ?