Knee Injury

[Shamrock]

You know I had that taping done to my knee and to be honest it didn't help me. that doesn't mean it won't help you. I really would get that stiffness in your lower back checked out by a chiropractor or an osteopath though.

The physios swore blck and blue that my back and knee were not related but they were and when treating the back the knee made a full, swift recovery.

Don't underestimate the connection there. If your back is sore it probably needs treating regardless of whether or not it helps your knee. Don't just endure the pain.

Good luck mate

Hey Sharla

Yes I took your previous advice and I've got an appointment booked with a chiropractor too.

cheers buddy

[Shamrock]

Do you get any back pain at all? Any stiffness in your hips even if it's not painful just a bit tight?

I think my knee pain came from having a tight Psoas. A chiro helped teach me how to keep my lower back loose and that helped.

I find when my back is bad, knee misalignment and pain follows. No back pain, no knee pain.

I'm working on stretches that might help keep my hips loose now.

Here's a passive stretch which works wonders for my lower back and a website on the Psoas muscle just in case any of the symptoms ring true for you. This stretch is good but I'm also looking for more.



OK the pic above is the closest I could find to it on the net (that's not me). Add a chair to support the legs, lay your arms open and straight out to the side and put a small pillow under your head if you want. Lay there for 15 mins and you'll feel AWESOME!

There's a pretty wide range of symptoms so check it out even if my symptoms sound different from yours:

The Psoas Muscle and Back Pain on Squidoo

Good luck

Sharla just wanted to say a huge thanks for this advice. I spoke to the physio today and mentioned the pain I've been having in my back she said straight away that this could be a major factor in the tightening in my knee and has started treating it. The main excercise she wants me to do is virtually identical to the one you posted.

Much appreciated

[Master]

I have been playing football on grass for 3 weeks and I pulled my calf, and I have never ever had that injury since I have played the game, which is all my life. I must have overstretched it and it popped during the match. Slowly walking on it again, but the knee is holding out and does not cause me any major problems so far.

[Shamrock]

I have been playing football on grass for 3 weeks and I pulled my calf, and I have never ever had that injury since I have played the game, which is all my life. I must have overstretched it and it popped during the match. Slowly walking on it again, but the knee is holding out and does not cause me any major problems so far.

Hope it mends quick fella !!! What position do you play ?

[Sharla]

Do you get any back pain at all? Any stiffness in your hips even if it's not painful just a bit tight?

I think my knee pain came from having a tight Psoas. A chiro helped teach me how to keep my lower back loose and that helped.

I find when my back is bad, knee misalignment and pain follows. No back pain, no knee pain.

I'm working on stretches that might help keep my hips loose now.

Here's a passive stretch which works wonders for my lower back and a website on the Psoas muscle just in case any of the symptoms ring true for you. This stretch is good but I'm also looking for more.



OK the pic above is the closest I could find to it on the net (that's not me). Add a chair to support the legs, lay your arms open and straight out to the side and put a small pillow under your head if you want. Lay there for 15 mins and you'll feel AWESOME!

There's a pretty wide range of symptoms so check it out even if my symptoms sound different from yours:

The Psoas Muscle and Back Pain on Squidoo

Good luck

Sharla just wanted to say a huge thanks for this advice. I spoke to the physio today and mentioned the pain I've been having in my back she said straight away that this could be a major factor in the tightening in my knee and has started treating it. The main excercise she wants me to do is virtually identical to the one you posted.

Much appreciated

You're welcome Shamrock.

I know these things can be really difficult to diagnose and manage and there are so many possible causes and consequences that it can be really frustrating to nut out. I know it was for me!

I hope things start improving for you and don't hesistate to let us know how things are going because your situation sounds like it might not be too different from mine so I might be able to learn a lot from you here!

[Master]

I have been playing football on grass for 3 weeks and I pulled my calf, and I have never ever had that injury since I have played the game, which is all my life. I must have overstretched it and it popped during the match. Slowly walking on it again, but the knee is holding out and does not cause me any major problems so far.

Hope it mends quick fella !!! What position do you play ?

Midfield but not playing in any league this season too late and not fit enough. Next season, I think I am Steven Gerrard but the lads think I play like Robbie Savage!

[Shamrock]

I have been playing football on grass for 3 weeks and I pulled my calf, and I have never ever had that injury since I have played the game, which is all my life. I must have overstretched it and it popped during the match. Slowly walking on it again, but the knee is holding out and does not cause me any major problems so far.

Hope it mends quick fella !!! What position do you play ?

Midfield but not playing in any league this season too late and not fit enough. Next season, I think I am Steven Gerrard but the lads think I play like Robbie Savage!

All blonde hair and falling over lol

[Andre]

i think all cardio is boring esp when you sit for an hour riding a bike or running...what is your goal? and what exactly is wrong with the knee? i just started to come back from dislocating mine at work, and it is almost 3 months and i can do a lot except walking on a down slope or going down stairs is painful. keep doing the pt excercises they will get you the strenght you need, then try doing sprints on a bike or an eliptical trainer, to reduce pounding and reduce boredom by shortening the time..if you are training for boxin, anerobic fitness is what you need if you want to loose fat, you can stick with reg cardio, but also wdd weightsas muscle burns more calories than fat.

My goal... well I have no illusions of competing any more. I'm looking at coaching and I just want to be able to get back in the ring and be able to move around. Fat is not an issue I'm only about 3-4 pounds over what I used to be when I was fighting.

I have part of the cartlidge floating in my knee which is causing it to lock. Depending on the MRI results they will either shave or remove the cartlidge.

I had the same thing .when I was young I fell out of a tree and hit my knee on a brick. seemed ok after the initail shock and got better. about 10 years later i was off down the street and my knee locked up totally.
turned out i had shattered my knee cap internally and a lump 3/4 inch x 3/4 inch had grown seperatley for years under the cap linked by a stem which snapped and the block caught and seized my knee.
That was the old days when they had to go in with shovel .Once you have a weakness you have to look after it every way you can, mentally too and with feelings too.

Our bodies follow our minds, our minds follow our deepest feelings so there are major links all the way through each way.

If our bodies arent following our driven messages to it, it follows our deepest feeelings,fears or likes through the sub consiouss.

Knees represent a link mentally into stubborn pride and ego.
inflexabilty to not giving in.
The mental thought that you need to write down and say aloud to your self so that your subconsiuss gets the new message is:

"Forgivness,Understanding.Compassion.
I bend and flow with ease and all is well." write it down read it out "aloud" to yourself everyday, alot, and see what your body does with your new directions you have given it.

Your mind runs the show either by you consiously,or if your not taking control it will do it any way in secret sub consiously through your deepest feelings, change movie reels and the body has to follow, thats its job.

Left side of body is 'feeling orientated' from the right side of your brain. often by female or ying disruption.

right side of body is often male analytical driven feelings that have effects from the left hemishphere, or the male yang side of us.

Being a male and in your position;
educated guess ; is its your left knee and your inflexable towards a female and moving along in life regards to both your deeper feelings,right or wrong.

[Shamrock]

[quote=Andre;505798]

i think all cardio is boring esp when you sit for an hour riding a bike or running...what is your goal? and what exactly is wrong with the knee? i just started to come back from dislocating mine at work, and it is almost 3 months and i can do a lot except walking on a down slope or going down stairs is painful. keep doing the pt excercises they will get you the strenght you need, then try doing sprints on a bike or an eliptical trainer, to reduce pounding and reduce boredom by shortening the time..if you are training for boxin, anerobic fitness is what you need if you want to loose fat, you can stick with reg cardio, but also wdd weightsas muscle burns more calories than fat.

My goal... well I have no illusions of competing any more. I'm looking at coaching and I just want to be able to get back in the ring and be able to move around. Fat is not an issue I'm only about 3-4 pounds over what I used to be when I was fighting.

I have part of the cartlidge floating in my knee which is causing it to lock. Depending on the MRI results they will either shave or remove the cartlidge.

I had the same thing .when I was young I fell out of a tree and hit my knee on a brick. seemed ok after the initail shock and got better. about 10 years later i was off down the street and my knee locked up totally.
turned out i had shattered my knee cap internally and a lump 3/4 inch x 3/4 inch had grown seperatley for years under the cap linked by a stem which snapped and the block caught and seized my knee.
That was the old days when they had to go in with shovel .Once you have a weakness you have to look after it every way you can, mentally too and with feelings too.

Our bodies follow our minds, our minds follow our deepest feelings so there are major links all the way through each way.

If our bodies arent following our driven messages to it, it follows our deepest feeelings,fears or likes through the sub consiouss.

Knees represent a link mentally into stubborn pride and ego.
inflexabilty to not giving in.
The mental thought that you need to write down and say aloud to your self so that your subconsiuss gets the new message is:

"Forgivness,Understanding.Compassion.
I bend and flow with ease and all is well." write it down read it out "aloud" to yourself everyday, alot, and see what your body does with your new directions you have given it.

Your mind runs the show either by you consiously,or if your not taking control it will do it any way in secret sub consiously through your deepest feelings, change movie reels and the body has to follow, thats its job.

Left side of body is 'feeling orientated' from the right side of your brain. often by female or ying disruption.

right side of body is often male analytical driven feelings that have effects from the left hemishphere, or the male yang side of us.

Being a male and in your position;
educated guess ; is its your left knee and your inflexable towards a female and moving along in life regards to both your deeper feelings,right or wrong.[/quote]


Okay buddy you just scared the crap out of me with how accurate that last statement was.....

[Andre]

Cool ,some people actually hate you when you show them the deeper way to getting better.

Sometimes you get them physically better in a matter of miniutes but its like shining a light on why and they hate you for it. Like kicking their life crutch out from under them.

[Shamrock]

Cool ,some people actually hate you when you show them the deeper way to getting better.

Sometimes you get them physically better in a matter of miniutes but its like shining a light on why and they hate you for it. Like kicking their life crutch out from under them.

Mate I'm open to anything and everything that makes things better. PM on it's way to you.

[Sharla]

Hey Shamrock,

One thing I forgot to mention is that when you do want to gradually get back into using the knee a longish walk warm up might be helpful. I now walk for a minimum of 10 minutes but usually longer before any running.

I got onto the idea because my chiro said at one stage I could walk for a period of time when she didn't recommend running. She said that the walking motion will make your spine move with a therapeutic oscillations which are quite healthy for it.

I think the walk warm up prepares my back and helps it find a saer alignment before running which prevents the knee pain i get when things are out of alignment.

Another woman I originally met through swimming who also was unable to run for a long time has found the same thing works for her. She also had back problems and found that running caused her too much pain but now she does run about 3 times a week with a 20 minute walk warm up.

Anyway maybe see how it goes when you think you're ready to gradually get back into slightly higher impact stuff. Of course it took me months of running for short periods of time on very soft grass with very gradual build up to get back into things. I found when i got too excited and tried to speed up the process I was my own worst enemy though so I'd recommend taking it slowly!

Hope it's getting better for you though - let us know how it's going sometime!

[Shamrock]

Hey Shamrock,

One thing I forgot to mention is that when you do want to gradually get back into using the knee a longish walk warm up might be helpful. I now walk for a minimum of 10 minutes but usually longer before any running.

I got onto the idea because my chiro said at one stage I could walk for a period of time when she didn't recommend running. She said that the walking motion will make your spine move with a therapeutic oscillations which are quite healthy for it.

I think the walk warm up prepares my back and helps it find a saer alignment before running which prevents the knee pain i get when things are out of alignment.

Another woman I originally met through swimming who also was unable to run for a long time has found the same thing works for her. She also had back problems and found that running caused her too much pain but now she does run about 3 times a week with a 20 minute walk warm up.

Anyway maybe see how it goes when you think you're ready to gradually get back into slightly higher impact stuff. Of course it took me months of running for short periods of time on very soft grass with very gradual build up to get back into things. I found when i got too excited and tried to speed up the process I was my own worst enemy though so I'd recommend taking it slowly!

Hope it's getting better for you though - let us know how it's going sometime!

Thanks Sharla !

I'm walking around 2 miles a day at the moment. It's around a mile to the centre of town so I walk there and catch the bus to work and do the same when I finish work. Just at a steady pace at the moment until I get the strength built back up. I'm also taking my daughter to swimming lessons from next week so that should help build the muscle up too...

[Sharla]

Yeah I got into swimming fairly intensely for a while after I injured my knee. 'd swim everyday and sometimes twice a day because it was all I could do without being limited.

It was a great feeling being able to train as hard and as fast as I wanted to after being in denial about being injured and trying to do all my other training while hobbling!

I definately recommend it and if possible a club sort of environment with people to chase and tips on your style etc will keep it interesting.