David Haye Confronts Klitschko

[amat]

Haye got knocked down versus Mormeck with a left but I'm having a hard time remembering if he was hurt or not and I didn't write whether or not he was. Mormeck is a decent power puncher especially at cruiserweight but nothing compared to Wlad even though Wlad spends more time pawing with his left and knocking his opponents glove down rather then throwing it with power all the time.

Haye also likes to hold the left hand low and try to roll with right hands. He can roll perfectly with a Wlad right hand, it doesn't matter he isn't going to be able to eat Wlad right hands and stay upright.

The good news is he has considerable power himself and I believe that power will carry. No reason not to. And if he fights Wlad he will be the busiest fighter Wlad has ever seen and he won't be scared of Wlad. The only guy not to be tentative in the ring with Wlad lately was Peter and he was able to find Wlad with power.

It's a GREAT fight. I wouldn't mind seeing it made for tomorrow.

[El Kabong]

Did you people who accuse Wlad of "pawing" so God damn much ever get a glance of the Wlad-Brewster II fight?

If that is pawing then I don't ever want to get pawed


As for the swatting down on the defense that he does...it makes for a WIDE OPEN right cross see Ray Mercer and Chris Byrd and Derrick Jefferson and Calvin Brock and Charles Shufford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQGMEVJbYY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpOYJiybS9w

[Unknowndonor]

Haye could potentially hurt Vlad, with his speed and Recklessness combined with some pop, but those same things could get him in serious trouble, and Vlad might knock him off the planet. I think Haye should take a fight or 2 at heavy before facing Vlad, but against some good fighters, not bums.

Obviously Haye wants the fast track to money and stardom, and I don't blame him, but IMO, he should have to beat at least 1 descent heavy before getting a shot.

[amat]

Well he does paw a lot Lyle and you know that. He still has power and I think he has the bet jab in boxing but he does spend a lot of time with the left hand way out in front pawing. That's usually something he does early in fights and it's not a huge deal but if you're David Haye and you're looking for things to exploit, that's a good place to start.

And I know why he does chopping down but I doubt he does to Haye, to risky and not needed anyways because Haye puts the left hand at his hip.

[El Kabong]

"Haye puts the left hand at his hip."






.....well there's your problem


I doubt he does that very long vs Wlad

[:::PSL:::]

"Haye puts the left hand at his hip."






.....well there's your problem


I doubt he does that very long vs Wlad

You two make good point. And I'm afraid for that. I'm sure Haye's camp is aware of that already.

Wlad does paw, but he paws with his left hand though. He normally uses it as a range finder.

[El Kabong]

Wlad does paw, but he paws with his left hand though. He normally uses it as a range finder.

And when he does find the range......




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_hiXBuxVuU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K_LZDXp0I

[amat]

"Haye puts the left hand at his hip."






.....well there's your problem


I doubt he does that very long vs Wlad

Well you don't have to watch Haye very long to see where his problems are. He might not have it so dramatically low but he's not going to hold them high either, he likes to roll with shots rather then block them and no matter how high his left is, Wlad is still going to be able to fire over the top with his right. It's just a matter of who makes the other pay first.

Wlad is going to have to put heat on Haye to win though, don't think he can afford to come in careful.

[WelshDevilRob]

Did you people who accuse Wlad of "pawing" so God damn much ever get a glance of the Wlad-Brewster II fight?

If that is pawing then I don't ever want to get pawed


As for the swatting down on the defense that he does...it makes for a WIDE OPEN right cross see Ray Mercer and Chris Byrd and Derrick Jefferson and Calvin Brock and Charles Shufford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQGMEVJbYY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpOYJiybS9w

The Brewster II fight is a terrible example. Brewster shouldn't have been allowed in the ring - he was completely washed up and still Klitschko didn't impress. On medical grounds Brewster shouldn't have been in the ring due to all the eye problems he had, he took the fight as one last payday.

And when did beating a washed up hasbeen like Ray Merver suddenly become impressive. Derrick Jefferson was hardly a gifted fighter either - terrible stamina and far too easy to hit albeit entertaining.

I've just looked at Wlad's record and it is poor - he's just been beating faded hasbeens like Botha, Mercer, Brewster (rematch) etc and average Heavyweights like Monte Barrett while in between getting sparked twice.

Haye might be shouting his mouth off and probably realises that Klitschko is there for the taking. The man fights like a pacifist these days.(Wlad)

[match]

Most guys don't fight better when they're angry, it throws them off. Wlad should just ignore what is said and stay focused.

[Mar]

Haye is a great fighter..he's making a huge mistake jumping into the heavyweight pool head first. All this hoopla and shittalking will come back to bite him in the ass when he eventually does fight in this division (and it wont be klitchko i think he's knows that and is talking out of his ass right now) and looses before he even fights klitschko. He can ask edison miranda all about how it feels to harass a guy you're not ready for in the first place.

[Pugilistic]

this bout will happen sooner or later. its hard at the moment to pick a winner until i see haye at heavyweight.

[Jesse James]

I reckon Haye stands a better chance than Sultan Ibragimov. I didn't hear anyone calling him crazy for wanting to fight Klitschko.

[El Kabong]

I reckon Haye stands a better chance than Sultan Ibragimov. I didn't hear anyone calling him crazy for wanting to fight Klitschko.

Sultan was an established fighter at heavyweight especially vs bigger guys.


Hell I think anyone who wants to fight Wlad is crazy to be honest with you

[Kirkland Laing]

I reckon Haye stands a better chance than Sultan Ibragimov. I didn't hear anyone calling him crazy for wanting to fight Klitschko.

Sultan was an established fighter at heavyweight especially vs bigger guys.


Hell I think anyone who wants to fight Wlad is crazy to be honest with you

Klitschko is rubbish. He got beaten by Ross "The Boss" Purrity. When he does get beat he's terrified to get back in the ring with the guy who just beat him. He's no champion, just a six foot seven inch fraud. As soon as a decent heavyweight comes along he'll get beat again. If Haye is any good at heavyweight he'll flatten him.