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    Lyle, there are two fighters.

    One guy has a truly epic physical presence. He's extremely tall, heavy and athletic, with exceptional athleticism for such a big guy. Yet since he discovered that his jaw is made out of glass he fights in a style that makes John Ruiz entertaining. He managed his career in a way that made Frank Warren seem like a reckless risk-taker and only due to the tragic decline in the heavyweight division since the 1970s is he even seen as world-class.

    The other fighter has less height and reach than the first guy and naturally weighs considerably less than the first fighter. But his style of fighting is exciting and he has lots of power married to exceptional athleticism, and he's willing to move up a weight class and fight the best fighter in the world at that level straight away.

    Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    Last edited by Kirkland Laing; 04-29-2008 at 03:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Lyle, there are two fighters.

    One guy has a truly epic physical presence. He's extremely tall, heavy and athletic, with exceptional athleticism for such a big guy. Yet since he discovered that his jaw is made out of glass he fights in a style that makes John Ruiz entertaining. He managed his career in a way that made Frank Warren seem like a reckless risk-taker and only due to the tragic decline in the heavyweight division since the 1970s is he even seen as world-class.

    The other fighter has less height and reach than the first guy and naturally weighs considerably less than the first fighter. But his style of fighting is exciting and he has lots of power married to exceptional athleticism, and he's willing to move up a weight class and fight the best fighter in the world at that level straight away.

    Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Lyle, there are two fighters.

    One guy has a truly epic physical presence. He's extremely tall, heavy and athletic, with exceptional athleticism for such a big guy. Yet since he discovered that his jaw is made out of glass he fights in a style that makes John Ruiz entertaining. He managed his career in a way that made Frank Warren seem like a reckless risk-taker and only due to the tragic decline in the heavyweight division since the 1970s is he even seen as world-class.

    The other fighter has less height and reach than the first guy and naturally weighs considerably less than the first fighter. But his style of fighting is exciting and he has lots of power married to exceptional athleticism, and he's willing to move up a weight class and fight the best fighter in the world at that level straight away.

    Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    Wlad isn't gunshy...he throws and lands a lot of punches...he just does so in a way which causes for him to take less damage.


    Mike Tyson is now alone, an ex-con, drug addict, and no one gives a crap about him.....such a great person to pass the sport on to the youth.

    The Mike Tyson story is come from nothing hit the big time and leave the sport with NOTHING and go back to where you came from....Wlad has a different story one of hope for boxers after retirement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    Wlad isn't gunshy...he throws and lands a lot of punches...he just does so in a way which causes for him to take less damage.


    Mike Tyson is now alone, an ex-con, drug addict, and no one gives a crap about him.....such a great person to pass the sport on to the youth.

    The Mike Tyson story is come from nothing hit the big time and leave the sport with NOTHING and go back to where you came from....Wlad has a different story one of hope for boxers after retirement
    Assuming each guy is at their physical peak, which guy would you rather see in a fight?

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    Who are they fighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Who are they fighting?
    It was a rhetorical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Lyle, there are two fighters.

    One guy has a truly epic physical presence. He's extremely tall, heavy and athletic, with exceptional athleticism for such a big guy. Yet since he discovered that his jaw is made out of glass he fights in a style that makes John Ruiz entertaining. He managed his career in a way that made Frank Warren seem like a reckless risk-taker and only due to the tragic decline in the heavyweight division since the 1970s is he even seen as world-class.

    The other fighter has less height and reach than the first guy and naturally weighs considerably less than the first fighter. But his style of fighting is exciting and he has lots of power married to exceptional athleticism, and he's willing to move up a weight class and fight the best fighter in the world at that level straight away.

    Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Or look it at another way. One guy is intelligent, respectful, articulate and an ambassador for the sport of boxing, the other is a complete tool. Which of these guys is most worth supporting? Which is it most natural to be a fan of?
    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.

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    Haye needs to earn his stripes and answer questions at Heavyweight before he Is called the next anything??....Having talent,nice right hand and attitude is a good starter At the front door..A starter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    If he's respectful and a great ambassador for boxing but a glass-jawed gunshy bore and the other guy is a tool but actually wants to fight and is exciting when he does fight then I think it's obvious which guy any boxing fan would choose.


    Nobody liked Mike Tyson because he was a great ambassador for boxing.
    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.
    Well said, Mr Baggins. To be honest I thought Haye looked a bit silly getting into Wlads face like that. Haye hasnt fought anyone of note at heavyweight and here he is trying to call the shots. I think Haye is interesting to watch but he should just fight a couple of top 10 guys himself and see if he can come through that unscathed before trying to mess with big Wlad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    How many David Haye fights have and Wladimir Klitschko fights have you actually seen?

    Haye sent most of the crowd to sleep when he plodded to victory against Ismail Abdoul just 5 fights ago. He was booed and jeered out of the ring.

    Fragomeni a fat 5 ft 9 plodder almost upset him busting his face open and only Haye's heavy hands managed to save him from once again being upset.

    In fact if you back through Haye's career he's been constantly criticised for poor stamina, being lazy, having no chin etc. He was unimpressive against Lasse Johansen, knocked out by Carl Thompson and has looked vulnurable in a number of other fights.

    He has looked excellent only in his last three fights demonstrating his impressive KO power.
    So one guy is getting better to watch and one is getting worse.
    Truth is we don't know how Haye is performing. He landed huge shots early against Bonin and Enzo so we never saw what his stamina was like or how he'll cope against someone who doesn't fall down when he hits them.

    His fight with Mormeck was superb but he was almost stopped himself.

    Not denying that Haye isn't an exciting boxer to watch, and he does have tremendous power but he's yet to do anything at heavyweight at all yet whilst Klitschko is now a two time world champ and has a very clear fight plan to follow, Thompson his mandatory, Povetkin, the winner of the IBF organised tournament to find a mandatory challenger for Wlad and then Sam Peter for a chance to become the first unified champ since Lennox Lewis.

    Meanwhile Haye hasn't beaten anybody at heavyweight at all.
    It may be that Haye is a rubbish heavyweight but the sum total of his fights at heavy till he retires will be far more worth eatching than the boring safety-first contests that Vlad will inflict on us.

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    ....maybe it's worth siding with the humble down to earth Doctor who supports tons of charities and has made something of himself in AND outside the ring.



    Oh another loudmouthed boxer full of bravado....my where ever on Earth did they find him

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